[Babayaro.]

I don't remember the general public being as bad, which is odd.


And Luke A won his series, which makes all of this the more unusual. Was it because he was a woman who transitioned into a man, and not the other way around?

[Jake.]

It’s so backwards.

[Cal.]

The majority are very accepting which explains Nadia and Luke A's wins but it's the minority who are horrible and I think it's more noticeable when you use the Facebook page/forums with Kellie and India. I'm sure the minority were like this over Nadia and Luke A too.

[Denver]

They have no hot teenage boys to drool over so take the anger out on anyone that is different

[Ant.]

Kellie's series was my second on-season here yet I don't remember anyone even making her identity an issue on the forum or off it

[Epic.]

And not forgetting Nadia Almada

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Kellie's series was my second on-season here yet I don't remember anyone even making her identity an issue on the forum or off it

This exactly though. I don't remember Kellie's.

[Livia]

Neither Kellie nor Nadia were on an "all female" show.

[Babayaro.]

Welp I actually keep forgetting Nadia is transexual

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I don't remember the general public being as bad, which is odd.


And Luke A won his series, which makes all of this the more unusual. Was it because he was a woman who transitioned into a man, and not the other way around?

you would need to state what treatment

i have seen nothing as lierally no one is watching the show


what general public stuff do you refer to?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Neither Kellie nor Nadia were on an "all female" show.

It should have been called "all woman". Transwomen are women but they're still male.

[Babayaro.]

Didn't Kellie just recently make the transition before going into the house? I'm sure she got a hero's welcome on launch night

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Cal.

The majority are very accepting which explains Nadia and Luke A's wins but it's the minority who are horrible and I think it's more noticeable when you use the Facebook page/forums with Kellie and India. I'm sure the minority were like this over Nadia and Luke A too.

Whilst this seems true the comments that have the most likes on Twitter and FB are all the transphobic ones
There's a couple that are likely "These comments are disgusting" but most of the popular ones are disgusting "jokes"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Welp I actually keep forgetting Nadia is transexual

iirc none of the other HMs knew or were told that Nadia was transexual, they only found out when they got out so it wouldn't have been as much of a topic of conversation I suppose and not at all spoken about within the house

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It should have been called "all woman". Transwomen are women but they're still male.

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you would need to state what treatment

i have seen nothing as lierally no one is watching the show


what general public stuff do you refer to?

Well, I, and a lot of others, have seen loads of comments across social media that are basically questioning why India should be there when it's an all-female launch, calling her a "he", etc. Then you just have to look at Rob's thread too.

[Jamie89]

I was just thinking that! I wasn't on here for Kellie's series and was curious if this amount of focus on the trans issue was normal

I would say with Luke A though that there is generally more of an objection to trans women in society than trans men.

[Livia]

I can't remember... did Luke A ever insist that he was a "real man"?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

iirc none of the other HMs knew or were told that Nadia was transexual, they only found out when they got out so it wouldn't have been as much of a topic of conversation I suppose and not at all spoken about within the house

Yeah I read up about this, Davina was telling the evicted housemates Nadia was transexual in their exit interview but apparently the producers had it stopped after complains it was disrespectful to Nadia.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Well, I, and a lot of others, have seen loads of comments across social media that are basically questioning why Indis should be there when it's an all-female launch, calling her a "he", etc. Then you just have to look at Rob's thread too.

well Rob gave like 3 examples from facebook but that is hardly evidence

its more an expose of facebook comments than anything else

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

And by the sounds of it they should be glad.

[waterhog]

the nasty comments are dwaft by the positive comments because there is more good in this life then bad.

but the bad comments will always be number 1 and front page because this nation loves a poem - I mean story

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

And by the sounds of it they should be glad.

[reece(:]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=263052

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trans women are trans women. I'm happy for them to be who they are and live without fear and in happiness. But they are not the same as me.

Agree totally,