[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

I'm actually really looking forward to this It'll be interesting to watch!

the secret life of 5 year olds meets CBB


btw i love your sig!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

When did I ever say you couldn't question my posts?

It's a forum and it's called debating.

This isn't question time. ....sorry you got so offended.

Well banging on about freedom of speech as though me daring to respond to your post was in an effort to shut you up. Whatever.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

the secret life of 5 year olds meets CBB


btw i love your sig!

Thanks

[T*]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i didn’t mean it like that

nah like i was just imagining it in my head, i realise now i said that quite bluntly, sorry about that

it’s fine I’m sorry for being a bitch!

[rph]

this might see if ash wants to continue the showmance after expecting to be step mum to geninwines kids

[rusticgal]

Lets see if Dapper can drag himself away from Ashley whilst the 'kids are in town'.....this task must be made for him...with 9 kids he should be the most experienced ..

Unless he's just good at making them rather than interacting.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by T*

it’s fine I’m sorry for being a bitch!

it’s all good, i meant it in a dry-funny kind of way

when i saw it i laughed at it and then saw that it was aimed at me and thought “oh ****!” ha ha

but nah i’m not offended, i find you funny

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Not at all.

I don't have to be a parent to witness how their elders can easily affect things they say and believe....infact we all pick stuff up off our parents.

I grew up looking after my little brother and cousins half my age who would pick up any swear word I said thank god they've now come into their own but at the time they were like sponges.

Never babysit and sing Winnie the **** instead of winnie the poo because when the parents come home and they are still singing it you get into trouble.

I **** up with this all of the time...makes me feel like a terrible parent but I am such a sweary person that it just comes out a lot. My husband goes mental with me over it but swearing is just such a normal part of my everyday language and has been for like 16 years now that even after 5 years of having young ones around I still mess up, regularly. I fellover the cat the other day and really hurt my toe and shouted 'that ****ing cat' and apparently my daughter went into school to tell the teacher about 'the ****ing cat' So that was a fun conversation..

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I **** up with this all of the time...makes me feel like a terrible parent but I am such a sweary person that it just comes out a lot. My husband goes mental with me over it but swearing is just such a normal part of my everyday language and has been for like 16 years now that even after 5 years of having young ones around I still mess up, regularly. I fellover the cat the other day and really hurt my toe and shouted 'that ****ing cat' and apparently my daughter went into school to tell the teacher about 'the ****ing cat' So that was a fun conversation..

Vicky...we are all human

[Matthew.]

on the transgender debate though, does a trans person’s parents normally re-name them? because india said that her mum (Sandra) named her after her favourite takeaway. and idk about you, but i have never gotten anything from my local Jonathan , so I assume that she means that her mum named her India after an Indian takeaway? I just thought that you would choose your own name yourself

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I **** up with this all of the time...makes me feel like a terrible parent but I am such a sweary person that it just comes out a lot. My husband goes mental with me over it but swearing is just such a normal part of my everyday language and has been for like 16 years now that even after 5 years of having young ones around I still mess up, regularly. I fellover the cat the other day and really hurt my toe and shouted 'that ****ing cat' and apparently my daughter went into school to tell the teacher about 'the ****ing cat' So that was a fun conversation..

I don't think there's a single parent that's not sworn in front of their children aw Vicky don't say that having a few slips of the tongue doesn't mean you're a terrible parent!

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

on the transgender debate though, does a trans person’s parents normally re-name them? because india said that her mum (Sandra) named her after her favourite takeaway. and idk about you, but i have never gotten anything from my local Jonathan , so I assume that she means that her mum named her India after an Indian takeaway? I just thought that you would choose your own name yourself

India was being sarcastic about that And India transitioned at like 50 y/o so I think she's old enough to name herself

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

on the transgender debate though, does a trans person’s parents normally re-name them? because india said that her mum (Sandra) named her after her favourite takeaway. and idk about you, but i have never gotten anything from my local Jonathan , so I assume that she means that her mum named her India after an Indian takeaway? I just thought that you would choose your own name yourself

I don't think she was being serious.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I said nothing at all about him at all He sat in the priority seat bit on the bus while she was in her pram so he was opposite her and she literally pointed right at him and spoke pretty loudly. I did apologize but thats when he said all was fine and started talking to her about boys liking wearing makeup and such. I assume from what he said that he is the right pronoun for him though...as surely he wouldn't be talking bout himself as a boy who likes to wear makeup if he was trans. I am not sure though as as I said, still not sure if he was trans, just feminine or a drag queen Have to admit though, glad he was on about challenging stereotypes, rather than trying to tell her he has a female brain or something...not sure how I would have handled that :S So I guess I was lucky in that respect

You arnt getting what im saying...even now you're calling that person he and him and probably don't even know you're doing it. Not your fault and you shouldn't be made to feel bad about it either it's just how you feel instinctively about trans women.

You aren't comfortable with calling someone who wasn't born female she....am I wrong?

I do agree that kids can form their own opinion and if someone looks particularly like a man in a dress ofcourse they will comment and as awkward as it is they speak their mind....ive been in the situation with my brother cmoment ing on someone's appearence on a train once and it's mortifying.

But that's what's make kids great I suppose lol.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I fellover the cat the other day and really hurt my toe and shouted 'that ****ing cat' and apparently my daughter went into school to tell the teacher about 'the ****ing cat' So that was a fun conversation..

sorry but i find this quite funny reminds me of our Dod (one of my housemates) when our dog started sleeping on “his spot” on the sofa. “shift yer arsh, tricia”

i made him sit on the floor for speaking to our dog like that
so he went out

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

on the transgender debate though, does a trans person’s parents normally re-name them? because india said that her mum (Sandra) named her after her favourite takeaway. and idk about you, but i have never gotten anything from my local Jonathan , so I assume that she means that her mum named her India after an Indian takeaway? I just thought that you would choose your own name yourself

mess I'm sorry I'm imagining Sandra holding India's hand in line at the office while India waits in preparation to hear what her mum's called her, and when she says 'India' she asks why, and that entire conversation comes up

The name change is on the person's own accord, regardless of age. My friend has his name changed to the name he preferred (he's trans and had his name changed when he was 15, I think it was legally but I don't know?) and my friend's brother also changed his name, and he's 13 and trans... ironically they both chase the same name

[GreenIce]

Originally Posted by MB.

Courtney to literally walk children in nature?

If only Tammie was in the house instead of boring pontificating old Courtney.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

India was being sarcastic about that And India transitioned at like 50 y/o so I think she's old enough to name herself

Morgan i love your sig even more now

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

on the transgender debate though, does a trans person’s parents normally re-name them? because india said that her mum (Sandra) named her after her favourite takeaway. and idk about you, but i have never gotten anything from my local Jonathan , so I assume that she means that her mum named her India after an Indian takeaway? I just thought that you would choose your own name yourself

I think that story was made up. I think India chose that name. i don't think India would have let her mum have a say in it..

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

You arnt getting what im saying...even now you're calling that person he and him and probably don't even know you're doing it. Not your fault and you shouldn't be made to feel bad about it either it's just how you feel instinctively about trans women.

You aren't comfortable with calling someone who wasn't born female she....am I wrong?

I do agree that kids can form their own opinion and if someone looks particularly like a man in a dress ofcourse they will comment and as awkward as it is they speak their mind....ive been in the situation with my brother cmoment ing on someone's appear nice on a train once and it's mortifying.

But that's what's make kids great I suppose lol.

But I don't know if he is actually trans, or is just a feminine guy who likes stereotypically womens clothing, or a drag queen (granted he would be a less..brash...drag queen if thats what he was) He did not clarify this.And given he was on about boys liking to wear makeup, that does sound to me like he is the correct pronoun to use anyway

I use preferred pronouns generally. My issue with India was that as she was going on constantly about being male, so I was ****ing up on pronouns. So was attempting to not **** up by using entirely gender neutral pronouns. After our talk the other day though I did try with she, and only messed up twice which wasn't as bad as I thought I actually didn't realise people would find gender neutral pronouns quite so offensive. My brain had such a disconnect with India...

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think that story was made up. I think India chose that name. i don't think India would have let her mum have a say in it..

apart from katie hopkins’s daughter, never heard of the name India

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I **** up with this all of the time...makes me feel like a terrible parent but I am such a sweary person that it just comes out a lot. My husband goes mental with me over it but swearing is just such a normal part of my everyday language and has been for like 16 years now that even after 5 years of having young ones around I still mess up, regularly. I fellover the cat the other day and really hurt my toe and shouted 'that ****ing cat' and apparently my daughter went into school to tell the teacher about 'the ****ing cat' So that was a fun conversation..

Haha omg! Yeah I can't compare to being a parent but as the only elder boy in my family looking after the kids when I was younger I know what you mean.

I called my dog a twat once for malting all over the clean washing and guess the word the little ones picked up for him? ....twat.

[JerseyWins]

This is actually going to be hilarious IMO.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

I called my dog a twat once for malting all over the clean washing and guess the word the little ones picked up for him? ....twat.

“dad i’m taking the twat out for a walk”

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

“dad i’m taking the twat out for a walk”

"I thought your mum was at work?"