[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Unnecessary to post a photo of him

but you've got a gif of him go figure

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not in Britain.

And you, the straight guy, are the one to answer that question.

[Lilac hills]

Sick of Shane j boring af and patronising and a bit of a twat overall

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And surely all the house calling shane she is actually insulting to people like India

maybe India was right after all?

India is insulting to herself.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And you, the straight guy, are the one to answer that question.

Too right I am. I'll answer any question I want and my sexuality wont stop that.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Stacyfrancisyasgal

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.

First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything

Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’.

Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Too right I am. I'll answer any question I want and my sexuality wont stop that.

Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on.

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on.

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

Im sure Alf like myself doesn't give a flying one about the LGBT as they have no part in his life

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He dresses up to (how can I put this without swearing) to F with Andrew's tiny pea crave man brain and because he actually wants to F Andrew , it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't already done something when they sneaked off to the toilet .

Shane J is desperate and embarrassing ,like I've said stick another guy in the house who's actually single and fairly good-looking with a fit body and Shane J will be all over him like a rash it's pathetic,I actually wanted another guy to go in to prove a point that Shane J is just a horny idiot with no substance which is probably why him and Andrew are inseparable .
.

He brings nothing to BB,huge disappointment. All he does is sit and glare at people and he inputs empty rubbish. He's 1 dimensional AF . He just drools over Andrew .
Him & Andrew are some of the worst choices this year for CBB .

Excellent post. He knows Andrew fancies Courtney rotten and is taking advantage of eviction nights (or situations) when Andrew is drunk and horny. The fact that he (or Coutney) said "I'm playing the long game" speaks volumes.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes because you're clearly completely up to date on the LGBT community and what goes on.

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

I think it has a Q on the end, you see, I'm more up to date than you.

[odd sock]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

Excellent post

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Kind of like a white guy claiming racism doesn't exist anymore.

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think it has a Q on the end, you see, I'm more up to date than you.

Bless

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'

Biggest rise is not biggest overall.

But look at you getting all straight white male on us.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Dude still has a huge following and has been first in every poll .
Only Ann could beat him .Nobody else has a chance.

No matter what Shane J does he still has loads of fans.
And everyone is lapping up his stupid stalkermance/ showmance with Andrew .

Ann is actually ahead in the tellymix poll but he is running second. I don't know if it will last if he sticks to Andrews side though.

There wasn't actually as much about them last night thank god.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Underscore

No, but I can have my opinion as you guys keep on pointing out everywhere

Hang on, you've a picture as your signature????????

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Just look at the amount of intolerance, and pushy and aggressive statements contained in this post.

And you call others 'part of the problem' !

When it comes to resolving social issues, a major part of 'the problem' is intolerant and aggressive attitudes like this.

It's like a brick wall of angry hatred. Solves nothing. Helps nobody.

YES there are some problems and confusion in the mainstream regarding LGBT issues.
YES dialogue is needed in order that people can understand each other better and society can evolve.

But that dialogue is a two-way thing.
It takes time, and it also requires patience and understanding ON BOTH SIDES.

You have to BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE.

You want respect?. You have to give respect.
You want acceptance and understanding from others? You have to BE accepting and understanding toward others.

You want people to hear YOUR side of the story and not attack you for being different?
Well, then you have to do the same for them, right? And not attack them for being different from you.

You can't make your point against intolerance.... by being intolerant yourself!

"Sit your ass down"
"Delete your account" etc etc

Sound tolerant and progressive to you??

[Patricia4]

I never heard of him or she since BB

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Stacyfrancisyasgal

I’m gonna need you to sit your ass down.


First of all, ‘you are not Oprah’ an illogical statement that makes little to no sense that clearly indicates you’re very naive.

‘ you can’t be truthful that you lust after Andrew’
‘Not everyone wants a sit down interview every time you get triggered’


Ok here’s where you are about to stop, Unless you are Courtney/Shane do not assume anything based off of a 1 hour TV show so to say she’s not being truthful is incorrect, she’s even said she likes Andrew but she understands he’s straight. So you are WRONG.



Regards the interview, you are a part of the problem Courtney/Shane needs to have these talks or ‘interviews’ to educate. we saw with John that he even said that he was brought up being taught to be homophobic, but with Courtney being there to educate she can change peoples mind set and the way they think.

The LGBTQ community still faces issues every day. So Courtney being in there she is doing a massive thing for everyone apart of the community with having debates, educating not only those in the house but the viewers.

If she just went in there and started shouting and ranting she would be out first because that’s exactly what India did.

So don’t you dare say that no one wants to see these ‘interviews everytime she gets triggered’. They are done to educate and not be spiteful. Courtney has never said anything offensive, rude or pushy but instead has tried her best to actually understand people like Ann and Johns point of view, learn from it.



Ok I’m over with this. delete your account.

What the actual F is this? I presume you're on a wind up?

[Nicky91]

Shane J a two faced hypocrite UGH i have been so mistaken by this idiot

[Paula D]

Anyway, getting back to adult conversation, what's pissing me off about Shane J is simply his sucking up to Andrew.

He knew Andrew was in the wrong when he went off on his rant at Jonny the other night, you could see it in his face and yet he wouldn't speak up. He's no problem speaking up to anyone else so it's pathetic.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ok son you are not fecking oprah

You also dont have the final word on being gay or sexuality or anything else for that matter.

In what world is "having a word" now the same as "having the final word"? You're projecting a bit much and trying to make him out to be something he's not

From recent examples I assume you mean the John thing, which is fair enough IMO because what John said - about straight men constantly being on guard around gay men because they think they might be objectified - is absolutely absurd since it's the way how women are treated 24/7 and you've admitted that yourself today:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well I think I speak for all straight men when I say you certainly think within the first 0.005 seconds "would I bang that?"

I didn't think too much of that conversation between John/Shane because it was fair and calm and resolved, and Shane relayed what was said to (I think) Malika in, again, a fair and calm way. The expectation that none of them should ever talk about each other to other housemates behind their backs is just impossible - and when it's an example as inane and harmless as this it's really a non-starter.

The only other example I can recall of 'Courtney bitching' was about Ginuwine in the nominations discussion and... again... Courtney was 100% correct. Ginuwine shouted over everyone and didn't let Wayne speak at all about saving Amanda (only to then let Shane L talk about why Ashley should stay can't imagine why he allowed that)

I figured the "Courtney the Educator" storyline would begin to grate on some of the British viewers eventually because they don't like being told how to think unless it's by #Sum1British (who's also loud and dated) and the whole "Year of the Woman" frame for the show would inevitably dissipate into the same old tackfest, where Courtney having a discussion about race politics would prompt groans from the audience who just want to watch Jess down a liquified glass of cow brains, but I find it refreshing.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes being a straight white male I can see how saying straight white male is "racist"

(I'll give you a clue. It isn't)

No need for your patronising emojis or 'clues'. They come across like cheap air freshener trying to hide the big verbal turd you just laid.

Let's look at the facts.

You just made the negative statement 'look at you, getting all straight white male on us' when i pointed out the recent rise in anti-white hate crime.

What do you mean 'getting all straight white male'?

Clearly you meant that in a negative way, no doubt about that.
As if being 'straight, white male' is a 'bad thing' somehow in your mind.

So to help you see the bigotry of your own statement, let's flip it around.

Let's imagine you had pointed out a statistic regarding anti-black hate crime.

Then imagine another person responded with:
'look at you, getting all gay black female on us!'

You see the obvious bigotry when it's that way round, right?

It's all negative stereotyping. Not cool.

I'm an equalist.
To me, anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight comments like yours are EQUALLY as objectionable as anti-black, anti-female, and anti-gay comments are by anyone else.

But maybe you are unequal in your logic.
Maybe you think it's ok to be negative about 'straight white males'?
Maybe you think it's ok to stereotype ONE race, ONE gender, ONE sexuality - but not others?

If so then THAT, my patronising friend, is what we call bigotry:
Racist, sexist and anti-straight bigotry.

My advice?:

Aim for ACTUAL equality and intellectual consistency on these subjects or you are no better than the racists of this world.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Yes that would be crazy

Especially since statistics show that in 2016-2017 the biggest rise in hate crime was in fact 'anti white'