[jaxie]

Originally Posted by lewis111

If you have homophobic views and are challanged on them - it's not bullying

He wasn't challenging any views. He was running around behind her back trying to turn other people against her. What a weasel.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If he wants to challenge her politics then become brittish and get elected. Do something of merit, don't dress up as a tart and pretend your dress fell off for Facebook likes

Seconded.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by lewis111

If you have homophobic views and are challanged on them - it's not bullying

He has already challenged Ann...he did it the 2nd day he was in there and he seemed to accept it. 3 weeks down the line he is is now trying to turn the other housemates on her behind her back. Like Kazanne said...trying to segregate her..that's bullying.
With Andrew gone...his storyline is weak. Now he has to give himself a purpose and targeting Ann will please his wannabe lover Andrew..because Andrew did not like her.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Time

They’re awful, so glad Amanda stood up for her tonight.

2 little witches plotting together and trying to drag Wayne down with them .

[joeysteele]

Bullying is one of the most misused words on here.
Every series it comes up and makes a mockery of real bullying.

Never likely in her life,never in her whole career in the really hard unpleasant world at times in politics.
Certainly never after politics too,would anyone or any group be able to bully Ann Widdecombe.

She can,when she decides to,wipe the floor with anyone,man,woman,regardless of status.

She even lectures BB,even BB cannot seem to win through as to her.

Utter tripe, Ann Widdecombe has in her life stood up to anyone and everyone.
She is no different now.

I've seen interviews where she's slapped down the interviewer too.
She's afraid of no one and no one in this world would be able to,or get away with even attempting to bully Ann Widdecombe.

Shane J, however Malika too don't care for Ann,they are seeking support for their stance.
Neither have said to anyone, we don't want people speaking to Ann.

Wayne actually agrees with Shane J, however he seems detached from politics and career so chooses to just do the show.
Shane J should do so too,not let this eat away at him for this last week.

Or,he should ask Ann if she was prepared to discuss it with him, I say again, I think she would and would even like to.
That's where he's going wrong on this matter.

Of course it's important to him, on issues important to me,I am like a dog with a bone until I've exhausted getting to the bottom of said issue.
I feel,since he learned Ann's position on lgbt rights and the fact she would still battle, using any influence she could, to deny them or even remove them.
It's like a dog with a bone to him too.

Amanda stood up for Ann,whether Ann is liked or not as a person doesn't matter.
She wanted in place discrimination against and still would want it, as to lgbt rights.
That's a fact and wrong,totally wrong.

However bullying Ann Widdecombe,Ann herself would likely give the biggest laugh herself at the suggestion.
That anyone dare see her as a.Woman anyone could even try to.

Her strength,determination and tramping on anyone getting in her way, is the badge this Woman proudly has worn all her adult life.

[Greg!]

Oh for god sake.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

He did not challenge her on her views though. He went behind her back trying to turn everyone else against her, simply because he heard in his letter the whole LGBT role model stuff. If he genuinely cared about her views, he would challenge her on them directly, not try to set Wayne on her, then go round the HMs individually to try and turn them against her randomly.

I don't get how he suddenly has a problem now when this was all discussed earlier in the series in a very mature convo between the two and he specifically said that he disagreed with her views but it was her right to have them. Suddenly now, theres an issue.

He already challenged her views directly on like day 5

[Greg!]

Why are people still shook at people talking behind other's backs on Big Brother in the year of our Lord 2018. It happens in every single series and it's a part of human nature.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I loved to see Wayne stand up to the bullys and put them in their place



for a small man he grew to a giant to chastise their evil ways

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Bullying is one of the most misused words on here.
Every series it comes up and makes a mockery of real bullying.

Never likely in her life,never in her whole career in the really hard unpleasant world at times in politics.
Certainly never after politics too,would anyone or any group be able to bully Ann Widdecombe.

She can,when she decides to,wipe the floor with anyone,man,woman,regardless of status.

She even lectures BB,even BB cannot seem to win through as to her.

Utter tripe, Ann Widdecombe has in her life stood up to anyone and everyone.
She is no different now.

I've seen interviews where she's slapped down the interviewer too.
She's afraid of no one and no one in this world would be able to,or get away with even attempting Ann Widdecombe.

Shane J, however Malika too don't care for Ann,they are seeking support for their stance.
Neither have said to anyone, we don't want people speaking to Ann.

Wayne actually agrees with Shane J, however he seems detached from politics and career so chooses to just do the show.
Shane J should do so too,not let this eat away at him for this last week.

Or,he should ask Ann if she was prepared to discuss it with her,I say again, I think she would and would even like to.
That's where he's going wrong on this matter.

Of course it's important to him, on issues important to me,I am like a dog with a bone until I've exhausted getting to the bottom of said issue.
I feel,since he learned Ann's position on lgbt rights and the fact she would still battle, using any influence she could, to deny them or even remove them.
It's like a dog with a bone to him too.

Amanda stood up for Ann,whether Ann is liked or not as a person doesn't matter.
She wanted in place discrimination against and still would want it, as to lgbt rights.
That's a fact and wrong,totally wrong.

However bullying Ann Widdecombe,Ann herself would likely give the biggest laugh herself at the suggestion.
That anyone dare see her as a.Wonan anyone could even try to.

Her strength,determination and tramping on anyone getting in her way, is the badge this Woman proudly has worn all her adult life.

you really have to drop the hate for her party and try and see her as a housemate, a real person and not the Conservative Party

[Nicky91]

so great Shane J, choosing your allies wisely in loyal Malika rather than backstabber Ashley, and ashley's time is up in the house on tuesday's eviction anyway

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Here we go,the old bullying tripe again.

No way is anyone bullying anyone,as in near all BB series,that's been the case too.

It was classic bullying behaviour. Starting with a ringleader and a sheep. Spreading to others, telling them you don't like that person, trying to gain support.

[-Sue-]

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

No one is bullying anyone in there. They just have different views.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No one is bullying anyone in there. They just have different views.

Exactly

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

shane rolled his eyes twice last night

or did that escape you?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Bloody hell just because Shane is talking to Malika and others about Ann doesn't make him a bully!!

I am so tired of Ann rolling her eyes and running off to the DR to complain ABOUT shane/Courtney if shane J or Courtney do anything but breathe in and out

That's not how is was though is it ? he wasn't 'talking' to Malika he was trying to turn her against Ann which was ok with Malika because she is as bad as him for being two faced, WHY did he want Wayne to go and sort her out ? bloody coward him,so pleased Wayne saw right through him,even Ashley and Jess had the nouse to suss him,Amanda was spot on last night about him,he has already questioned Ann about her views and they were fine,so now 3 weeks on is he repeating it all again and NONE of it to Anns face, he was trying to isolate Ann ,also I don't suppose for a minute you noticed him 'roll his eyes' when Ann didn't want to do the meditation. No ? of course not.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

shane rolled his eyes twice last night

or did that escape you?

The difference between shane lubricating his eye balls once and Ann doing it more than eating hot meals is uncanny right!

Once again sun seems to shine out of ann's arse and shane gets crucified for having an opinion that doesn't match hers.. or for simply having a laugh...( i don't buy it (fear of cotton wool) ann gets defensive and rude towards shane!!

Some are too afraid to confront ann's opinions in fear of her having a pop at them I like how shane is so beyond fed up of being treated like a non existent entity by ann on occasion he has had enough and it shows! He may not always come across well but at least he is not a nodding dog sat on the back shelf of the car agreeing with everything ann has to say!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The difference between shane lubricating his eye balls once and Ann doing it more than eating hot meals is uncanny right!

Once again sun seems to shine out of ann's arse and shane gets crucified for having an opinion that doesn't match hers.. or for simply having a laugh...( i don't buy it (fear of cotton wool) ann gets defensive and rude towards shane!!

Some are too afraid to confront ann's opinions in fear of her having a pop at them I like how shane is so beyond fed up of being treated like a non existent entity by ann on occasion he has had enough and it shows! He may not always come across well but at least he is not a nodding dog sat on the back shelf of the car agreeing with everything ann has to say!

when you get to Ann and Amanda's age you find that you have heard a few things before

I am sure them both and Wayne have come across many "shanes" and after a while they get a little tiresome...

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's not how is was though is it ? he wasn't 'talking' to Malika he was trying to turn her against Ann which was ok with Malika because she is as bad as him for being two faced, WHY did he want Wayne to go and sort her out ? bloody coward him,so pleased Wayne saw right through him,even Ashley and Jess had the nouse to suss him,Amanda was spot on last night about him,he has already questioned Ann about her views and they were fine,so now 3 weeks on is he repeating it all again and NONE of it to Anns face, he was trying to isolate Ann ,also I don't suppose for a minute you noticed him 'roll his eyes' when Ann didn't want to do the meditation. No ? of course not.

Oh Im sorry is Shane now no longer allowed to talk to anyone about how he is being made to feel/ about his opinions?

Oh by 'coward' do you mean the chat Ann & amanda in the bedroom 'doing a high 5' had instead of saying any of what they had to say to shane's face????

The only person alienating ann is ann.. miserable old trout even when CBB gives them a treat/reward she complains...

[Nicky91]

Malika is so great siding with the winner of CBB21

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

when you get to Ann and Amanda's age you find that you have heard a few things before

I am sure them both and Wayne have come across many "shanes" and after a while they get a little tiresome...

True but does it give them the right to be so rude about it? it only takes a moment to listen and be respectful once all is said then is the time to discuss..

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

True but does it give them the right to be so rude about it? it only takes a moment to listen and be respectful once all is said then is the time to discuss..

and hypocrite ashley a desperate attempt of saving herself, well she at least tried LOL but Tuesday is going to be most predictable eviction so far with Ashley going on 0% of the votes to save

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Oh Im sorry is Shane now no longer allowed to talk to anyone about how he is being made to feel/ about his opinions?

Oh by 'coward' do you mean the chat Ann & amanda in the bedroom 'doing a high 5' had instead of saying any of what they had to say to shane's face????

The only person alienating ann is ann.. miserable old trout even when CBB gives them a treat/reward she complains...

I don't think he's spoken about anything else has he and you sound more miserable than Ann ever has.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

and hypocrite ashley a desperate attempt of saving herself, well she at least tried LOL but Tuesday is going to be most predictable eviction so far with Ashley going on 0% of the votes to save

Ashley was great last night,I am surprised (well I'm not) that you have turned on her again,she was lovely as was jess.