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CBB21 Celebrity Big Brother January 2018 [CBB 21] (dubbed Year of the Women). Discuss the housemates and series - which was won by Courtney Act - here.


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Shane J 26 35.62%
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Amanda 41 56.16%
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Old 28-01-2018, 10:11 PM #26
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Not saying when she came out

She has been Gay for donkeys years
No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.
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Well I wouldn't be friends with a miserable hag like Ann so unfortunately I cannot put myself in said position.
Why do you have to call her names, it demeans your point of view.
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I don’t want agressive delirious manipulative idiots like Shane j representing gay people

You want to coexist among people, let other people exist too. Stop trying to bulldoze your views on Ann and when things don’t go ur way isolate her
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But to be fair I'm sti not sure what it was all about as they both seemed to be arguing over different things
He was dissing her for her political views,AGAIN,Amanda said she didn't care and that she liked Ann ,Wayne told him aswell CBB is not a soapbox,it's a game show and he would not be drawn into it, I just wonder what Shane J is hoping to achieve as he wont change Anns mind.
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Amanda. Shane was terrible tonight. Kind of wish he had not got his letter as that seemed to be what set him off properly..though he was already sniping on about Jess too
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No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.
She hasn't kept it a secret as I knew of it and so did others
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Well I wouldn't be friends with a miserable hag like Ann so unfortunately I cannot put myself in said position.
Its hypothetical though.... but whatever.

In this instance, Amanda for loyalty over Shane Js bitching to everyone but Ann
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Why do you have to call her names, it demeans your point of view.
Exactly and people declare they were brought up respectfully it doesn't make sense
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Why do you have to call her names, it demeans your point of view.
Because I want to. Put me on ignore if you want
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Amanda brought up irrelevant past transgressions (Courtney's wardrobe malfunction) to make a point about not judging people on past transgressions... and then walked off without hearing a response... so um... Shane.
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Its hypothetical though.... but whatever.

In this instance, Amanda for loyalty over Shane Js bitching to everyone but Ann
How is it hypocritical?
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Exactly and people declare they were brought up respectfully it doesn't make sense
I don't really see why you're bringing up how Amy Jade was raised?

She's lovely and I don't see how you can judge how she was brought up based on a comment about Ann
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I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.
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Both. They just have a different approach to Ann and different opinions as to how they feel about her and react differently to her, neither of them are actually wrong and both perspectives are understandable. Amanda lived a long time closeted and the views that Ann holds were more acceptable for most of Amanda's life so it's more 'normal' for her and easier to look past, whereas Shane's lived with more freedom to express anti-homophobic views and I think their differences mainly come down to that.
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No surprise from me,Shane J.

The lgbt rights issue is important to him.
He is a gay man,brushing his concerns aside was wrong.

The one thing he was unwise in was not directly asking her if she was prepared to discuss her feelings on lgbt rights.

My guess is she would have.

However I'd stand with Shane on this.
Amanda came across really bad,extremely bad in fact.
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Amanda. Shane was terrible tonight. Kind of wish he had not got his letter as that seemed to be what set him off properly..though he was already sniping on about Jess too
Yeah I think the combination of the letter and his cheers/surviving the eviction is what set him off. I don't think he's actually wrong with the stuff he's saying about Ann though.
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Shane was left high and dry and looking the total twat he is ,if I hear those fecking words LGBT again in my lifetime it will be too soon ,enough is enough **** You snivelling backstabbing little coward
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No surprise from me,Shane J.

The lgbt rights issue is important to him.
He is a gay man,brushing his concerns aside was wrong.

The one thing he was unwise in was not directly asking her if she was prepared to discuss her feelings on lgbt rights.

My guess is she would have.

However I'd stand with Shane on this.
Amanda came across really bad,extremely bad in fact.
In my.opinion.
I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.
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I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.
It's important to him.
It would be nice to think people genuinely in favour of equal lgbt rights understood feelings on that.

Lgbt rights are greatly improved, no thanks at all for any from Ann Widdecombe.
Just still dismissing gay people and their concerns shows,in my view, only intolerance.
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I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.
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I am so pleased to hear Gay posters do not want Shane representing them.

It shows people are individuals with their own choices, views and lifestyles.

A drag queen from Australia is good for entertainment but telling you how and what you should be, is arrogance beyond belief.
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Amanda...without a doubt.
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No she hasn't. She was too scared to come out until 2002 because of people like Ann Widdecome.
SO you aren't gay until you come out in public? Well that's a new one. Here I was thinking you were born gay and telling people was your own business not the definition of your sexuality.
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I agree. Her tone was almost aggressive? I didn't like it at all.
She disliked the way Shane J incessantly puts his interests before anyone else, even when asked not to.

He has been banging on for weeks, they must be heartily sick of him.

When people of the same sexual persuasions tell him enough is enough, you think he would take the hint.

So then, this is where you walk away.
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