[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY

Pet gays, safe to have around the children and dear old granny.

Exactly! Why didn’t I just say that! Haha

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

What if Wane and Amanda were black? And Anne had voted against black people marrying eachother? Would you think it odd that they ignored her views then?

They're not

[Oliver_W]

I'm the "B" in "LGBT" but if I was expected to be an "example" of anything should I get in BB, I'd hate it. It doesn't matter that I'm LGBT, no-one cares these days. It's like saying I should represent people who wear Converse.

[Denver]

This is why there are so many problems.

Because only young good looking people who constantly shout their gender or sexuality around the streets are seen as role models

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

What if Wane and Amanda were black? And Anne had voted against black people marrying eachother? Would you think it odd that they ignored her views then?

Now that's just silly isn't it?

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[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They both made it clear tonight they are just people, must to Shanes shock, he tried to get them on board his plan to out Ann but by God did it backfire on him

Shane is obsessed with his sexuality. Someone needs to tell him his sexuality is a small part of him as a person.

It's not everything about him. And nor should it be. But he has this huge axe to grind.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Now that's just silly isn't it?

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It’s exactly the same thing. Exactly.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

It’s esactly the same thing. Exactly.

No it's really not son.

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[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Paula D

No it's really not son.

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I’d like to know how you think it differs..

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

What if Wane and Amanda were black? And Anne had voted against black people marrying eachother? Would you think it odd that they ignored her views then?

You are not going to change Ann or history.

Accept that she will not change, try not to over analyse or you will just go round in circles.

Ann is not the worst, her day has passed and she is an elderly lady on a TV show.

Is she really worth all this angst and dragging up old hurts because it doesn't hurt her it only hurts you. Xx

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

It’s exactly the same thing. Exactly.

Don't waste your time.

The arguments used against same sex marriage were mostly used against interracial marriage 50-60 years ago in the US (yeah I know this is a British show, it's just an example). But people don't care because homophobia is not taboo.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

You are not going to change Ann or history.

Accept that she will not change, try not to over analyse or you will just go round in circles.

Ann is not the worst, her day has passed and she is an elderly lady on a TV show.

Is she really worth all this angst and dragging up old hurts because it doesn't hurt her it only hurts you. Xx

And I wouldn't try to. My point was about Amanda and Wane’s constant backing of someone who thinks the way they live their lives to be abhorrent.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

And I wouldn't try to. My point was about Amanda and Wane’s constant backing of someone who thinks the way they live their lives to be abhorrent.

When has she said it's abhorrent?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

And I wouldn't try to. My point was about Amanda and Wane’s constant backing of someone who thinks the way they live their lives to be abhorrent.

This is not the case

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

And I wouldn't try to. My point was about Amanda and Wane’s constant backing of someone who thinks the way they live their lives to be abhorrent.

They’re not backing her views, they’re backing her as a person

They’re understanding and being tolerant of the fact that people can find common ground despite conflicting political standpoints, which is something Shane j needs to learn to do

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

They’re not backing her views, they’re backing her as a person

They’re understanding and being tolerant of the fact that people can find common ground despite conflicting political standpoints, which is something Shane j needs to learn to do

But your views ARE who you are! The way we see the world is everything we are. I will keep bringing this back to the race allegory; if she had voted against black rights would you be defending two people of colour who chose to stand by her.

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

But your views ARE who you are! The way we see the world is everything we are. I will keep bringing this back to the race allegory; if she had voted against black rights would you be defending two people of colour who chose to stand by her.

You are not your political standpoints and the labels you decide to yell at the top of ur lungs or give to other people

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

You are not your political standpoints and the labels you decide to yell at the top of ur lungs or give to other people

If our view points are not who we are, and our sexuality, race or gender is not who we are.. then who the **** are we?!

[Lilac hills]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

If our view points are not who we are, and our sexuality, race or gender is not who we are.. then who the **** are we?!

We are people

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

If our view points are not who we are, and our sexuality, race or gender is not who we are.. then who the **** are we?!

People will walk away if you keep shouting about your rights.

We all have rights, we all have things we don't like about our lives, make the best of what you have and stop whining.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

We are people

Well, that’s cleared that up

[Lilac hills]

I am not my eye colour, hair colour, skin colour, sexuality

If you wish to make trivial things define u go ahead

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

People will walk away if you keep shouting about your rights.

We all have rights, we all have things we don't like about our lives, make the best of what you have and stop whining.

I can’t with this child.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

I am not my eye colour, hair colour, skin colour, sexuality

If you wish to make trivial things define u go ahead

Have another drink, you’ve stopped making sense

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Have another drink, you’ve stopped making sense

It makes sense - we don't say "I'M A LOUD PROUD BLUE EYED PERSON, GET OVER IT!" do it, because blue eyes don't affect us as a person. Centering your personality around being gay makes as much sense as doing so around your eye colour.