[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i just saw this in another thread but it got locked so i’m continuing the discussion here teehee

what are your thoughts?

in MY opinion she’s scum

[Marches]

Stop trying to use housemate conversion therapy on Ann fans

[GiRTh]

Horrendous it doesn't work and I dont understand how anyone can think it does. Plus the psychological scars.

[Vicky.]

I found it really odd how this managed to stay on the hush until a few days before the final, when there have been a few people constantly going on about her voting record. Good timing for it to surface now. Anyway

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/co...glad-to-be-gay

Is what she actually said on it all.

[Marches]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Horrendous it doesn't work and I dont understand how anyone can think it does. Plus the psychological scars.

Btw strawman nobody agrees with conversion therapy on this forum

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marches

Btw strawman nobody agrees with conversion therapy on this forum

Whos Strawman?
If you dont agree say so no need for these extra comments

[Vicky.]

OK I will also be deleting the snipey comments that ended up getting the other thread closed in the end. Don't want to end up having to bloody close another here. Its possible to talk about this without being all sarky and baiting

[Vanessa]

I had no idea about this. Glad I don't support Ann anymore now.

[Kazanne]

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

[Paula D]

Please expand further by what you understand Ann to support?

Or are you going off one line in a tweet?

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[reece(:]

She's a dinosaur with dated views, no shocker

Hopefully in 70 years time views like conversion therapy belief are totally eradicated

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I had no idea about this. Glad I don't support Ann anymore now.

But your happy to believe what is said on here instead of researching it,that figures.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by reece(:

She's a dinosaur with dated views, no shocker

Hopefully in 70 years time views like conversion therapy belief are totally eradicated

It sounds so wrong to do that to someone

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

There isn't much point posting this as it will just be ignored

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It sounds so wrong to do that to someone

The gay person WANTED the therapy,no one was forced,have you actually read Vickys article ?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

It has literally been a thing since the 1920’s, it’s all well and good telling others to read up about it, maybe you should too....



Like Reece said, her views are outdated, it’s a generational so no doubt a couple of decades from now people will look back at it in horror in a similar way to slavery (and I’m not comparing those two btw, I’m just saying people will look back in a “wow can you believe that actually used to happen” kind of way)

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I found it really odd how this managed to stay on the hush until a few days before the final, when there have been a few people constantly going on about her voting record. Good timing for it to surface now. Anyway

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/co...glad-to-be-gay

Is what she actually said on it all.

Thanks for posting that link Vicky. Again Ann states things clearly. If someone is reaching out to doctors for help, we should treat them. She is saying that we shouldn't turn away someone in mental turmoil. Not the same thing as some wish to imply at all.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

Nobody thought this in 2012, which is when Ann spoke out in defence of it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There isn't much point posting this as it will just be ignored

I know I thought that ,but really it's like just because they hate her they flow along with anything said,such close mindedness I have never seen before.

[Shaun]

It's an interesting issue because there are instances of gay/bisexual people wishing to partake in 'therapy' themselves but ultimately it's like trying to get experimental medical treatment to make yourself taller / grow a few extra inches down below. It's just doomed to failure and going to upset you further and the idea that people can make money off what is essentially denying someone's identity - since it's not covered by the NHS and would be a private medical expense - is shameful.

Mental health and psychiatric branches of the NHS would be better suited to this instance.

Also the article explains the instance of an undercover reporter seeking 'treatment', so it's not technically written from the POV, or indeed in defence, of someone who actually wants the treatment.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by reece(:

She's a dinosaur with dated views, no shocker

Not really.

[Jamie89]

I'm surprised tbh, even with her views she's still an intelligent woman and just a small amount of knowledge of/research into conversion therapy will show that it's not only useless but also can be pretty damaging.. If somebody wants to have conversion therapy then it means their issues with their sexuality are so deep that they'll very likely only be damaged further by having it, it's actually quite cruel to those people to encourage it.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I'm surprised tbh, even with her views she's still an intelligent woman and just a small amount of knowledge of/research into conversion therapy will show that it's not only useless but also can be pretty damaging.. If somebody wants to have conversion therapy then it means their issues with their sexuality are so deep that they'll very likely only be damaged further by having it, it's actually quite cruel to those people to encourage it.

[Pete.]

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

You mean she wanted to take advantage of the mentally ill.