[Withano]

Originally Posted by y.winter

That's really stretching what I said, especially rephrasing and putting it in block letters to make it like some sort of a hysterical seizure.

Not really, originally everybody after the T in LGBT were

People with too much time on the internet looking to label every part of their personality and overall busy with turning themselves into a cluster of nouns instead of actually doing something useful and being a human being who happens to love certain things.

then you went on to say how the extra letters are defeating the point, when actually none of what you said is true. People define the sexuality, including you and I, and including asexual and pansexual people. They've been put in an acronym and thats ok. They're not just internet dwelling entities looking to label themselves in every way possible.

[Tom4784]

I'm quite offended that my sexuality is considered on the same level as having a kink and polygamy.

I'll just stick to LGBT....

[Firewire]

when someone questions your polyamory

[y.winter]

Oh dear, I was talking about the chase after making LGBT into a never ending acronym. The subliminal suggestion that it's just pure lgbtphobia is just an exaggeration, as I didn't say any of it. People can be whoever they want and they're not less valid, yet that's not the point in what I said.

[Jamie89]

Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

[Jessica.]

Where is the D for Demisexual, I don't feel represented? When will the segregation end?

But seriously, I think LGBTQ+ has always been enough, I don't get why stuff always gets added on. I've seen so many variations of it.

[Smithy]

Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

Somebody just referred to "LGBTQIAPK" on Twitter so I raced to Google.

Now I knew LGBTQ but is "IAPK" a new thing or..



Can somebody explain why being kinky is now included with being lesbian/gay/bi/trans/etc? I really don't get it.

50 Shades did that?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Firewire

No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

It was her hip you flop

[Firewire]

There's no H in LGBT tho!

[Smithy]

Guess you shouldn’t have made the ****e joke then hen!!

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Firewire

No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Firewire

There's no H in LGBT tho!

Hypersexuality to be included in the next addition?

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

when will LGBTRW? Lesbians, Gays, Trans, Bi and Real Women

[Smithy]

Leave the jokes to me girls you’re not doing anyone any favours

[GoldHeart]

So next it will be the whole alphabet LGBTACDEFHIJKMNOPQRSUVWXYZ

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

i think what they are trying to put forward is that kinky people are born kinky and its not a conscious choice that they have ... but doesn't everyone have a degree of kink in them to some extent..... it could be something as simple as liking leather, it doesn't need to be pain, bondage and humiliation

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

Yeah was just coming in to say that aswell, what rights are people who are into kinky stuff looking for exactly? Why does the world need to acknowledge what type of sex they enjoy, seriously?

[Marches]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think what they are trying to put forward is that kinky people are born kinky and its not a conscious choice that they have ... but doesn't everyone have a degree of kink in them to some extent..... it could be something as simple as liking leather, it doesn't need to be pain, bondage and humiliation

Where do we draw the line with this? What’s stopping these people from including pedophiles in the lgbt soup?

[Vicky.]

It is so wide now that it covers nearly all people on earth, which means realistically the whole thing is pointless. Asexual people, how the **** are they discriminated against? Noone is going to beat you in the street for NOT having sex. its just ridiculous really. And I mentioned on a thread recently about this 'Kink' push to be added, again thats stupid 'Kinky' people should be being 'kinky' behind closed doors, so noone would even know they were 'kinky' and if they are practicing their kinks in public or involving members of the public against their will then they are a bit sick and should not be expecting for their behavior to be considered 'normal' (I guess part of 'kink' could be having sex in public or something though...ugh). Look at all the stuff thats included under 'kink'..basically anything besides having sex with the lights off in missionary 24/7

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-to-z-kinks-and-fetishes

And as Niamh said last time this was brought up...age play is creepy as ****.

Everyone seems to want to tell the world about their fetishes. And I think its really wrong to be associating LGB people with simply having fetishes to be quite honest. I would add T on there, but many many of the group currently under the transgender umbrella ARE simply fetishists. So I would say that associating gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual (and intersex) people in with fetishists it pretty wrong. And transsexual needs to be transsexual again else transsexual people are lumped in with fetishists both for 'transgender' and the LGBTALPHABET.

People just want to jump on this to prove how apparently discriminated against they are, and its silly.

Also, so many of my gay friends find queer very offensive. It seems to be mainly the younger generation who have decided its an acceptable term.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It is so wide now that it covers nearly all people on earth, which means realistically the whole thing is pointless. Asexual people, how the **** are they discriminated against? Noone is going to beat you in the street for NOT having sex. its just ridiculous really. And I mentioned on a thread recently about this 'Kink' push to be added, again thats stupid 'Kinky' people should be being 'kinky' behind closed doors, so noone would even know they were 'kinky' and if they are practicing their kinks in public or involving members of the public against their will then they are a bit sick and should not be expecting for their behavior to be considered 'normal' (I guess part of 'kink' could be having sex in public or something though...ugh). Look at all the stuff thats included under 'kink'..basically anything besides having sex with the lights off in missionary 24/7

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-to-z-kinks-and-fetishes

And as Niamh said last time this was brought up...age play is creepy as ****.

Everyone seems to want to tell the world about their fetishes. And I think its really wrong to be associating LGB people with simply having fetishes to be quite honest. I would add T on there, but many many of the group currently under the transgender umbrella ARE simply fetishists. So I would say that associating gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual (and intersex) people in with fetishists it pretty wrong. And transsexual needs to be transsexual again else transsexual people are lumped in with fetishists both for 'transgender' and the LGBTALPHABET.

People just want to jump on this to prove how apparently discriminated against they are, and its silly.

Also, so many of my gay friends find queer very offensive. It seems to be mainly the younger generation who have decided its an acceptable term.

Tea!!

[Maru]

They should make LGBT into an umbrella term at this point and say it includes all letters. Done, futureproofed.

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Oh yeah all those asexuals that are thrown out and killed for their sexuality

This.

It’s more than including what you might be. The main people who have to fight for equality/raise awareness/go through hell are LGBT. No additions please