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Old 08-02-2018, 07:00 PM #1
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Default “Churchill was a racist”

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So this is what the youth of today get up to when they’re bored?

Here is footage of a group of student protesters invading the Winston Churchill cafe in London
So what do you think,Is this a productive use of their time?

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Its another stunt by Afua Hirsch. She's been on GMB and SKY quite few times and is a bit of an idiot.
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The way to convince people that you're right is, apparently, by chanting like a cult . Someone should tell them that all they're doing is tuning people out.
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Also, Churchill was an aristocrat born in 1874. Of course he was a bit racist.
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They must have actually sat down at a meeting and decided who chanted what line...roll on the summer ffs.
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The way to convince people that you're right is, apparently, by chanting like a cult . Someone should tell them that all they're doing is tuning people out.
But being obnoxious is fun and a good way to pass the time
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They need more classes! Uni is a rip off! One day a week my son did in his final year! One day a week!

On a more serious note I don't really like the idea of policing the past. Times were different and you can't hold people of a different time to the same standards really. Churchill was a great leader when this country needed him. That's enough really.
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They need more classes! Uni is a rip off! One day a week my son did in his final year! One day a week!

On a more serious note I don't really like the idea of policing the past. Times were different and you can't hold people of a different time to the same standards really. Churchill was a great leader when this country needed him. That's enough really.
Well, if they can hijack the narrative of the past, then they can invalidate other people's perception of the present/future, which must mean that other people's objectivity is flawed, i.e. leading that person to question their own realities... it's so you'll gaslight yourself into thinking you can't trust the things you've learned as an individual and so you'll become more dependent on group-think. So if you try to reason with this, they can say well it's your own privilege showing and this is actually proof of everything that we're saying.

I think it's meant to be a mind-trick to pray on the naive. If they can accomplish their goal of appearing "objective" enough to make you question your own reality, then they've accomplished their goal...
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On a more serious note I don't really like the idea of policing the past. Times were different and you can't hold people of a different time to the same standards really. Churchill was a great leader when this country needed him. That's enough really.
Uni IS a total rip off everything I’m learning for my degree I have to do outside of lectures literally what’s the point I skive some of them and don’t miss anything
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Uni IS a total rip off everything I’m learning for my degree I have to do outside of lectures literally what’s the point I skive some of them and don’t miss anything
Yeah I did that, then got to my final year and was ****ed because I hadn't engaged with it properly in the earlier years and ended up leaving without a degree.

Just a heads up .
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When I was in my program, I couldn't wait to get out and do actual stuff with what we were studying. I do continuing education stuff on my own now with self-study and online courses. Like a good friend told me "Sometimes college gets in the way of your education" when it comes to your actual craft. I would've preferred to have done a fast track program than to spend 6 months learning the super basic stuff and stressing about how to pay tuition, when I can literally pick up a new language in a few weeks or learn to write code on a new platform... it's completely unnecessary.
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When I was in my program, I couldn't wait to get out and do actual stuff with what we were studying. I do continuing education stuff on my own now with self-study and online courses. Like a good friend told me "Sometimes college gets in the way of your education" when it comes to your actual craft. I would've preferred to have done a fast track program than to spend 6 months learning the super basic stuff and stressing about how to pay tuition, when I can literally pick up a new language in a few weeks or learn to write code on a new platform... it's completely unnecessary.
I guess it’s only a few years but you’re not even guaranteed job security or opportunities like a few people were making out to me. The system is set up in a way now that you can’t get in certain professions without getting a piece of paper and paying an extortionate amount of money, especially since a good portion of the program you teach yourself. I’m the sort of person who likes to learn but I feel so unmotivated and drained with furthering certain skills because of assignments alas
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He was yes, were it not for allied soldiers and a global effort the was would have been lost... none of his monologues deserve absolution.
He is touted as a great and conquering hero, he was just another colonialist.
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It doesn't matter whether he was racist or not. He was the leader the UK needed during WWII, and gave the odd speech which is remembered to this day. If people spend their time sitting down and discussing how "problematic" he was,and then arranging protests relating to him, they need to reevaluate their lives.
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There was hardly a politician of the early 20th century who wouldn't be judged as racist by today's standards but to say that Churchill had no impact on the outcome of the war is nonsense
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He was yes, were it not for allied soldiers and a global effort the was would have been lost... none of his monologues deserve absolution.
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