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Nicky91 · 03-12-2018, 10:46 AM

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But ... the father did just abandon the daughter

because he believed his wife was trapped in that other universe

that Frog creature made people see those who they had lost, Graham seeing Grace but he found out she wasn't grace when she said don't worry about ryan he'll be fine, cause that is the exact opposite of what his grace would say

Morgan. · 03-12-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

because he believed his wife was trapped in that other universe

that Frog creature made people see those who they had lost, Graham seeing Grace but he found out she wasn't grace when she said don't worry about ryan he'll be fine, cause that is the exact opposite of what his grace would say

Yeah I know I did watch it

He still abandoned her though it doesn't matter why

Nicky91 · 03-12-2018, 11:12 AM

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Yeah I know I did watch it

He still abandoned her though it doesn't matter why

anyway i've noticed Tosin Cole's bad acting, also the doctor could've just had Yaz and Graham as companions, Ryan doesn't really add anything to the team

slightly offtopic but nice BBC Christmas commercial which was just before this episode last night

Jarrod · 03-12-2018, 01:06 PM

It was okay.

What I really want to know is.... did they only have a TARDIS interior for 2 days filming? Where is it?

Nicky91 · 03-12-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrod

It was okay.

What I really want to know is.... did they only have a TARDIS interior for 2 days filming? Where is it?

now you mention it, i can remember we seeing more from the TARDIS on the inside in past doctor who series

Jarrod · 03-12-2018, 01:20 PM

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now you mention it, i can remember we seeing more from the TARDIS on the inside in past doctor who series

It's made barely any appearances this series, let alone it turning up late in Episode 2. It's one of the key characters to the series!

Marsh. · 03-12-2018, 03:34 PM

I don't actually mind. There can be times where the convenience of the Tardis spoils a story because the writer uses it as a cheap way of resolving something, rather than being a bit original.

However, they haven't sacrificed the far too overused sonic screwdriver.

PLEASE, allow it to pick locks and stuff and not detect/solve bloody everything. It's beyond a joke at this point.

Jarrod · 03-12-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't actually mind. There can be times where the convenience of the Tardis spoils a story because the writer uses it as a cheap way of resolving something, rather than being a bit original.

However, they haven't sacrificed the far too overused sonic screwdriver.

PLEASE, allow it to pick locks and stuff and not detect/solve bloody everything. It's beyond a joke at this point.

I agree with this - as much as it's great to have... every episode seems to rely on the sonic. Even with the "I love my sonic" quote.

Marsh. · 03-12-2018, 03:40 PM

Then again, if they took it away from her, we'd probably have more of that eating the soil stuff to figure out where they are.

Although, considering they were in the present day this week, you'd think one of them would've figured that out with their smartphone.

Greg! · 03-12-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Then again, if they took it away from her, we'd probably have more of that eating the soil stuff to figure out where they are.

Although, considering they were in the present day this week, you'd think one of them would've figured that out with their smartphone.

Their phones always get zapped by the sonic so they work anywhere silly!

Marsh. · 03-12-2018, 04:14 PM

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Their phones always get zapped by the sonic so they work anywhere silly!

That doesn't make any sense, that HELPS MY POINT YOU STUPID WOMAN!!

They should be able to tell when and where via the magic of their mobile bloody phone.

Oliver_W · 03-12-2018, 04:34 PM

No shade but I think I must have had a "micronap" during the episode because my recollection of the events was Graham saying bye to Grace, then they were back in the real world - apparently there was a talking frog or something?

Tom4784 · 04-12-2018, 02:44 PM

I really enjoyed it, the plot was interesting, the threat of the sentient universe and the moths were well written and, in the universe's case, sympathetic.

One thing this series has done well (although the effect has been lessened through overuse) is presenting aliens as often misunderstood good guys and I like how this episode leaned into that while making the universe's morality more complicated than the other good aliens thus far. It's sympathetic but still a massive threat to everything that has to be dealt with.

Ryan continues to be a problem as always though. He fit better in this episode but, tbh, he could have easily not been in it and nothing would have been lost. Yazz as a character is finding her feet and Graham's excellent as always but Ryan needs to go.

I also think this was the best showing for Jodie's Doctor yet, although the writers need to be brave and have her lose the screwdriver as often as the doctors typically loses access to the Tardis, it's such a lazy crutch of a writing tool.