[Pro Sniper]

Having outside interference to save a player on the block is absurd. It may have been excused a bit more IF the person saving was worthy of it,, but it was Ryan FFS. The man who chose to turn on his only 2 allies and accepted becoming the houses' bitch. Why the **** should that sort of moronic, pathetic behaviour be rewarded? - and the fact that saving Ryan's hairy orange ass also resulted in Erica(the greatest BBcan female of all time) being evicted in his place makes it even more tragic. Also, ridiculous to see the gifting of "messages from home" to the entire house(which was clearly for the benefit of weak losers like Ali, Liv, Derek, Will, Maddy, Paras etc) it used to be that receiving such a privilege could only come from being earned. The game is just getting softer and softer. Soon the players will be able to pick a handful of family&friends to have on standby 24/7 that they can call on to come in the house and cheer them up for a couple of hrs.

[Mystic Mock]

I've noticed with BBCAN that if they are saving someone with twists then they're likely to be in the final two and most of the time are likely to win the game.

Jon, Sarah. The Brothers and Kelsey for series 4, Kevin, and now Ryan.

[starry]

Erica didn't go after bigger targets when she should have, she evicted Veronica to please others. Ryan was never going to be accepted just because, like you Pro Sniper, people don't think he looks cool.

[Oliver_W]

My theory is that the person who's paid to subtitle Will suggested this twist so he wouldn't lose his job.

[LukeB]

She was stupid to win so many comps when she didn’t need to so what did you expect? It was going to bite her in the ass sooner or later.

[Calderyon]

She won too much when she didn´t need to and it cost her.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by starry

Erica didn't go after bigger targets when she should have, she evicted Veronica to please others. Ryan was never going to be accepted just because, like you Pro Sniper, people don't think he looks cool.

What bigger targets??? There's NONE in that house. It's perfectly linear. That's why it didn't matter who Erica went after. They were all inferior..so her only play was to navigate her way through the horrid pack week by week while attempting to minimize the blowback on herself. Which she was doing a pretty good job of. Because aside from that little ratbag Kaela and her poncey bf, she looked in no immediate danger from the rest of the rabble. It's just laughable that arguably the greatest female the show has ever had was kicked out in such a ludicrous, unfair manner. A legit backdoor is fair game, but this one was anything but. A silly twist to save a useless player(just because he's a "superfan") and ZERO chance to even participate and win a POV to avoid any backdoor plot made the whole thing preposterous.

Re Ryan. I can't speak for the house, but I don't "not accept him" because he doesn't look cool. I don't accept him because he's played like a moron and been given a ludicrous save at the expense of a RARE PHENOMENON in the BB game = POWERFUL FEMALE PLAYER.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

What bigger targets??? There's NONE in that house. It's perfectly linear. That's why it didn't matter who Erica went after. They were all inferior..so her only play was to navigate her way through the horrid pack week by week while attempting to minimize the blowback on herself. Which she was doing a pretty good job of. Because aside from that little ratbag Kaela and her poncey bf, she looked in no immediate danger from the rest of the rabble. It's just laughable that arguably the greatest female the show has ever had was kicked out in such a ludicrous, unfair manner. A legit backdoor is fair game, but this one was anything but. A silly twist to save a useless player(just because he's a "superfan") and ZERO chance to even participate and win a POV to avoid any backdoor plot made the whole thing preposterous.

Re Ryan. I can't speak for the house, but I don't "not accept him" because he doesn't look cool. I don't accept him because he's played like a moron and been given a ludicrous save at the expense of a RARE PHENOMENON in the BB game = POWERFUL FEMALE PLAYER.

Ryan told her she would always be a big target even if she did what the house wanted and he was right. The game was bound to eventually start even though we've had to wait weeks for it.

[point17]

Ryan was given a great edit that episode.. they are trying to build the whole Alli Liv Daela vs Will Maddy Jony and Paras (playing both sides). Erica seemed to be good with most so she doesn't force the 2 groups.

I think it was a shame she left now, but a bigger shame Jonny won that veto or he could have gone home!

What's more frustrating I guess too is that Erica didn't even make Jury..

[starry]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

What bigger targets??? There's NONE in that house. It's perfectly linear. That's why it didn't matter who Erica went after. They were all inferior..so her only play was to navigate her way through the horrid pack week by week while attempting to minimize the blowback on herself. [/B]

She was stringing along with two duos who were ready to ditch her whenever needed.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Re Ryan. I can't speak for the house, but I don't "not accept him" because he doesn't look cool. I don't accept him because he's played like a moron and been given a ludicrous save at the expense of a RARE PHENOMENON in the BB game = POWERFUL FEMALE PLAYER.

It's hardly a rare phenomenon. Jillian, Neda, Sarah, Brittnee, Ika, Ashleigh, Kelsey, Cassandra and even Karen to some extent were all powerful in their respective seasons. In fact I'd say that female players have stood out a lot more than male players when it comes to BB Canada.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by starry

She was stringing along with two duos who were ready to ditch her whenever needed.

One can't control how many pairs band together. One can only control how to split them up. it's hardly wise to do anything other than string along with both of them until you win power and pledge loyalty(pretendee) to one of them as you target the other. This dreadful season actually deserves something like those 2 weak, pathetic pairs to be the final 4. I hope that's what happens. 200 people tune in to watch the insignificant winner being crowned and Arisa Cox annouces that another hiatus is almost assured. It doesn't deserve any more seasons if this is the standard garbage they're serving up.

Originally Posted by Ashley.

It's hardly a rare phenomenon. Jillian, Neda, Sarah, Brittnee, Ika, Ashleigh, Kelsey, Cassandra and even Karen to some extent were all powerful in their respective seasons. In fact I'd say that female players have stood out a lot more than male players when it comes to BB Canada.

Our definition of POWERFUL obviously differs. Coz apart from Jillian, I wouldn't have any of the following 8 names listed under that description. I'd have 1 of them under OVERRATED(Neda), one of them under GROTESQUELY OVERRATED(Ika),, and the rest under LAUGHABLE.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

She was stupid to win so many comps when she didn’t need to so what did you expect? It was going to bite her in the ass sooner or later.

Tbf a twist took her out, not anything to do with her gameplay.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

One can't control how many pairs band together. One can only control how to split them up. it's hardly wise to do anything other than string along with both of them until you win power and pledge loyalty(pretendee) to one of them as you target the other. This dreadful season actually deserves something like those 2 weak, pathetic pairs to be the final 4. I hope that's what happens. 200 people tune in to watch the insignificant winner being crowned and Arisa Cox annouces that another hiatus is almost assured. It doesn't deserve any more seasons if this is the standard garbage they're serving up.

Our definition of POWERFUL obviously differs. Coz apart from Jillian, I wouldn't have any of the following 8 names listed under that description. I'd have 1 of them under OVERRATED(Neda), one of them under GROTESQUELY OVERRATED(Ika),, and the rest under LAUGHABLE.

I would agree with you on this tbh, bar Jillian as I've not seen much of series 1 at all.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf a twist took her out, not anything to do with her gameplay.

It still has something to do with her gameplay, Kaela had loads of options but she chose Erica.

Erica would have been the replacement nominee if johnny used his veto. If she couldn’t get out johnny her next target was Erica.she used the canada veto twist to her advantage

Twist may have been the reason why she is out but gameplay still comes into it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It still has something to do with her gameplay, Kaela had loads of options but she chose Erica.

Erica would have been the replacement nominee if johnny used his veto. If she couldn’t get out johnny her next target was Erica.she used the canada veto twist to her advantage

Twist may have been the reason why she is out but gameplay still comes into it.

The main point I'm trying to make is that Erica survived the week, it's not her fault that a twist came in and swiped her out, she authentically made it to this week and should've been allowed to have a chance at taking out Kaela, and if she couldn't then that's down to her gameplay not being good enough to deal with Kaela.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The main point I'm trying to make is that Erica survived the week, it's not her fault that a twist came in and swiped her out, she authentically made it to this week and should've been allowed to have a chance at taking out Kaela, and if she couldn't then that's down to her gameplay not being good enough to deal with Kaela.

Yeah she survived this week, not her fault about the twist but it is still her fault she was evicted. Kaela had some time to talk to people before she made her choice, canada did not put up erica and evicted her, Kaela and the hgs did.

She could have survived if liv and ali who she was close to voted to save her.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yeah she survived this week, not her fault about the twist but it is still her fault she was evicted. Kaela had some time to talk to people before she made her choice, canada did not put up erica and evicted her, Kaela and the hgs did.

She could have survived if liv and ali who she was close to voted to save her.

But every Housemate has a weak spot with their gameplans, and the twist that was used on Erica could be used on any of the other Housemates which is wrong as within BBUSA rules (which is what BBCAN is following) Kaela had chickened out of going for Erica, and Johnny had won the Veto so Kaela had failed at getting out her target, and it should've stayed that way imo.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf a twist took her out, not anything to do with her gameplay.

She would not have been such a target had she not won so much, so her gameplay had something to do with it.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But every Housemate has a weak spot with their gameplans, and the twist that was used on Erica could be used on any of the other Housemates which is wrong as within BBUSA rules (which is what BBCAN is following) Kaela had chickened out of going for Erica, and Johnny had won the Veto so Kaela had failed at getting out her target, and it should've stayed that way imo.

How did she chicken out? Why would anyone put a comp beast up for eviction allowing them to play veto and ruin her plans? Her plans was ruined anyway until canada saved Ryan which gave Kaela the opportunity to get out a threat. Yes erica was evicted because of this twist but still had some gameplay to it. Erica could have survived if she wasn’t a target.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

She would not have been such a target had she not won so much, so her gameplay had something to do with it.

It's not her fault that only two people in the whole season are capable enough to win comps.

The blame should only be in one direction about Erica's eviction, and that's the BBCAN production.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's not her fault that only two people in the whole season are capable enough to win comps.

The blame should only be in one direction about Erica's eviction, and that's the BBCAN production.

In terms of her being a target above others ie: a potential evictee is down to her.

The twist was stupid and unfair though. But so are most of them and houseguests should prepare for them to happen.

[Calderyon]

But then again this all could have been avoided had Canada voted not to use the veto.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

But then again this all could have been avoided had Canada voted not to use the veto.

The option should have been chosen, idk why fans voted to use it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

How did she chicken out? Why would anyone put a comp beast up for eviction allowing them to play veto and ruin her plans? Her plans was ruined anyway until canada saved Ryan which gave Kaela the opportunity to get out a threat. Yes erica was evicted because of this twist but still had some gameplay to it. Erica could have survived if she wasn’t a target.

Well it's a cowards move to backdoor (I feel the same with Erica's HOH the week Veronica went) but away from my opinion of backdooring, Kaela's backdoor plan went wrong as Johnny won the Veto (which Kaela could've stopped him winning)he didn't use it so that should've meant game on for next week between Daela and Erica and Johnny and see who was good enough to win the next HOH, but instead BBCAN production nuked the unpredictability of who would win to safeguard the Showmance (as per usual) it's why I only casually watch BBCAN as they knew that Kaela would take a strike at Erica if Erica didn't have a whole week to campaign, tbf I don't blame Kaela as she did make the right move for herself in the end (even though I do think that she's made more enemies along the way by nominating two pawns that week) I blame the production for not even giving Erica a chance at survival, they knew that with Kaela being HOH that only two people were vulnerable to the twist and they (the production) deliberately targeted them knowing that Kaela wouldn't have the courage to nominate them against each other upfront.