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Old 08-06-2018, 07:40 PM #1
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Following on from the other thread, I knew I'd seen "tea" for this being in the works and apparently it airs before Season 11 they're really killing this. Filming starts immediately after S11 finishes filming (July 4).

There's also tea that the entire AS4 cast make an appearance in an episode of S11, for a challenge, but idk how that would work / what it would involve (perhaps just a photo shoot).

I want to keep this thread spoiler-free but at the same time its entire purpose is to find out who is cast so I'll rephrase: I want to keep it spoiler-free in terms of who's eliminated when, who wins how many challenges, who makes it to the final/wins, etc.

Stuff I've randomly pulled from the Drag Race Spoilers subreddit

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Willam has hinted that Naomi Smalls has been cast.

Shea has reportedly turned the offer down, whilst Valentina has accepted it.

They've asked AS1 queens to return, and apparently even an AS3 queen . Some say it was Aja, and she turned them down. I can't for the life of me imagine this being a genuine truth though

Of the AS1 queens, there seems to be a LOT of buzz and "confirmation" that one who's agreed to appear is Latrice

Some who've reportedly turned them down: Max, Courtney Act


To summarise, though, everything in this spoiler should be taken with a pinch of salt as it hasn't even begun filming yet
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I've heard quite a bit, from the top of my head I remember seeing that it was beginning to be filmed in the next week or two, but won't feature S11 Queens UNLESS one of the AS4 lineup has to pull out early in which case a S11 queen will feature as replacement. Will try and round up a few more bits.
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I can't believe y'all mocked me for liking Aja and then she won AS3 and is coming to snatch AS4
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• Naomi Smalls
• Ongina
• Shea Coulee
• The Vixen
• Trinity Taylor
• Valentina
• Miz Cracker
All of the above are reportedly definites. The next few are maybes that are still in negotiations/not confirmed.
• Pearl - had reservations, more enthusiastic after DragCon
• Kim Chi - had reservations, may say yes bc of Naomi appearing
• Latrice Royale and Manila Luzon - returning due to unfairness of All Stars 1 twist, will compete individually in All Stars 4
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• Naomi Smalls
• Ongina
• Shea Coulee
• The Vixen
• Trinity Taylor
• Valentina
• Miz Cracker
All of the above are reportedly definites. The next few are maybes that are still in negotiations/not confirmed.
• Pearl - had reservations, more enthusiastic after DragCon
• Kim Chi - had reservations, may say yes bc of Naomi appearing
• Latrice Royale and Manila Luzon - returning due to unfairness of All Stars 1 twist, will compete individually in All Stars 4
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The Vixen said she would never do all stars, check the subreddit
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The Vixen said she would never do all stars, check the subreddit
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Ah okay, don't use Reddit too much so thanks for letting me know
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Not surprised. Bitter bell end.
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• Naomi Smalls
• Ongina
• Shea Coulee
• The Vixen
• Trinity Taylor
• Valentina
• Miz Cracker
All of the above are reportedly definites. The next few are maybes that are still in negotiations/not confirmed.
• Pearl - had reservations, more enthusiastic after DragCon
• Kim Chi - had reservations, may say yes bc of Naomi appearing
• Latrice Royale and Manila Luzon - returning due to unfairness of All Stars 1 twist, will compete individually in All Stars 4
Reportedly
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Shea - understandably after bossing S9 and then losing with a stupid twist / that much personal grief
has turned them down though.
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I won't be happy if at least nine of the following are chosen:

- Tammie Brown (if we're allowing AS1 queens back)
- Ongina
- Jessica Wild
- Mariah
- Stacy Layne Matthews
- Jiggly (never liked her much on the show, but feel she has good potential for an AS season)
- Willam (impossibility isn't far from reality...lol)
- Kelly Mantle
- Vivacious
- April Carrion
- Gia Gunn
- Laganja Estranja
- Trinity K Bonet
- Joslyn Fox
- Darienne Lake
- Courtney Act (yes, I am extremely bias to my favourite season)
- Tempest DuJour
- Jasmine Masters (see: Willam)
- Mrs Kasha Davis
- Miss Fame
- Acid Betty
- Naomi Smalls (i'll take the hate)
- Kim Chi (not even a fan, but she's undoubtedly an All-Star, and she should rightfully be portrayed as the bitchy villain she truly is)
- Valentina (essential)
- Trinity Taylor
- Shea Coulee
- Peppermint
- Dusty Ray Bottoms
- Monique Heart
- The Vixen
- Monet X Change
- Miz Cracker


I've bolded the ones I think would make the final cut. Not necessarily my favourites, but a mixture of realism and desire. Let's pretend Jasmine Masters will come round to the idea one day.
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I'd want.

Manila
Latrice
Tammie Brown
Ongina
Valentina
Trinity Taylor
Acid Betty
Mariah
Courtney Act
Max - Kind of a blah personality but should have gone further in S7 tbh.
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Gonna leave out S10 queens for now because I don't want another Aja situation - someone who could feasibly win still not being rounded enough by experience of "how to win Drag Race".

My dream list - naming 12 because I can:
- Jessica Wild (season 2) - She was robbed of the first Miss Congeniality so she can have a chance at winning a whole new generation of hearts instead.
- Mariah Balenciaga (season 3) - The only ever Ball queen on the show, she deserves to make it based on the fact Drag Race has pilfered a ton of Ball references alone.
- Lineysha Sparx (season 5) - I know her language barrier would be a major problem but she served LOOKS.
- Darienne Lake (season 6) - naturally funny, killer makeup, deserves redemption
- April Carrion (season 6) - eliminated way too soon in a overpowered season, I think she could've made the top half of another one. Seems a lot smarter now, too.
- Jasmine Masters (season 7) - the meme QUEEN. I don't know if I buy the "burned her bridges" concerns that everyone writes her off with... she's had her messy videos but she's now working with WOW and is just genuinely a stellar personality and needs more representation
- Acid Betty (season 8) - more than just a look queen, she was 'top' for all but 1 challenge, and robbed of a win in the Money Ball look
- Robbie Turner (season 8) - I know given recent events this is a non-starter but I loved her dryness and she was good at many challenges. Could be a good villain.
- Trinity Taylor (season 9) - the perfect competitor, will fight dirty and is naturally funny and talented. I can't ever see her winning but she'll always go far and steal scenes (a la Detox)
- Valentina (season 9) - look, I don't buy the hype with her and she isn't the greatest queen ever, but I'm sure even with the limited time since her season, she's probably amped her game up and could kill it. Or she could flop hard. I'm content either way!
- Yara Sofia (All Stars 1) - if there's an AS1 returnee then I have two choices. My first is Yara. I'm torn between her and Alexis for this slot because I think Alexis has a better understanding of the show's humour, and more "catchphrases"/milkable content... but Yara just has this stage presence and creativity that's almost unrivalled across all seasons.
- Latrice Royale (All Stars 1) - I know there's loads of AS1 queens to clamor for and see again... Manila, Tammie, Raven, Mimi, Nina, Pandora... but it's been too long without the original fan favourite.

I've gone for a couple of wildcards that I don't know if they have much chance of being cast... but I want some surprises! It's all very easy being thrown Shea and Peppermint and Trinity and Valentina and Naomi and Pearl but... someone unexpected that doesn't get shafted at the first opportunity like Morgan.

I've left out Willam because honestly I don't think it'd be in her interests to return to the show that she's spent so long slagging off, now. I think it'd be an immediate setup for her to fail. I've also left out Courtney Act because the bridges there also seem burned, and her confidence doesn't mesh well with Drag Race's need for you to be a vulnerable and malleable victim. And finally I've left out Stacy Layne Matthews because whilst I love her, I don't think she has the wits about her to really be a contender and I don't want her hero status tainted by an early elimination but ugh I want her on the show in some form. Give her a judges' slot. And as much as I adore Nina Bo'Nina Brown, I still think she's not... ready for it. And didn't include Shea because she doesn't seem to want to do it.

Even wilder cards that I think are worth a look:
- Honey Mahogany
- Laila McQueen
- Tempest DuJour
- Alexis Michelle
- Jiggly Caliente
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Using the extremely reliable source of Drag Exclusive on YT
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Idk if I have to spoiler things In a rumour and spoiler thread??
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Set to being filming July 4th

Shea Coulee declined the invitation.
Apparently Aja was asked again but she declined (someone hold RileyH)
Pearl has an Aussie tour booked in
Jasmine Masters also has an Aussie tour booked
Kim Chi is fully booked
Cracker has a UK tour booked in but also wants to work on drag activism in Africa (I think that's the country she mentioned, the interview is on YouTube if you want to check)and grow as an artist before she does more reality tv

Monet has cancelled gigs during July/August and Shea replaced her in most
Naomi Smalls has no gigs booked
Trinity Taylor cleared all schedules
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We have a rumoured cast! (thnx Reddit)

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Rebecca Glasscock
Jessica Wild
Manila Luzon
Latrice Royale
Gia Gunn
Joslyn Fox
Naomi Smalls
Farrah Moan
Valentina
Trinity Taylor
Monét X Change
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They wouldn't have Gia back would they considering she's trans now?

Not that I would mind, love her! Here for Farrah & Trinity too
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We have a rumoured cast! (thnx Reddit)

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Rebecca Glasscock
Jessica Wild
Manila Luzon
Latrice Royale
Gia Gunn
Joslyn Fox
Naomi Smalls
Farrah Moan
Valentina
Trinity Taylor
Monét X Change
Monique Heart
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They wouldn't have Gia back would they considering she's trans now?

Not that I would mind, love her! Here for Farrah & Trinity too
Nah I think they definitely want a Trans queen on the show after the whole controversy, to show they're fully accepting, Ru was educated etc.
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