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14-06-2018, 10:25 PM | #1 | |||
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This is disappointing. I used to hold the FBI in high regard, but I guess no agency is really immune to corruption. Comey has turned into a bit of a joke, and it's worrying how much his own personal narcissism/political feelings for example appears to have affected his decision-making.. this was the issue with Hillary as well, as the rules didn't really apply to her in her eyes and she tried to bend them however she could.
Trump is also prone to corruption, as he obviously is financially motivated, not having put ample distance between him and his family's money for example despite having won the presidency. However, he at least doesn't have the FBI at his back. All this does is help to spin narratives in his favor that it's the establishment that is trying to paint him in a particular light.. I think that is at least partially true, as he has pulled some authoritative moves and hasn't distanced himself from his business enough, Mar-a-Lago for example. I don't think he'd hesitate for a moment either to go much further with executive orders if we didn't have a system in place to keep those powers in check... Anyway, here's the article about the report... Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1f4c39d4c29a Quote:
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15-06-2018, 07:09 AM | #2 | |||
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Another great post, but I have read this three times, Maru, and still have trouble deciphering what it is exactly that the author of the article is REALLY saying. If it is that the FBI had it in for Trump, then it is confirmation of what a lot of us already knew.
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15-06-2018, 08:14 AM | #3 | |||
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I honestly don't believe that even if FBI had anything on Trump that it would do damage, the Russia thing was highly speculated at that point but MAGAers secretly loved Putin anyway. I don't think the "But her emails" did any damage either. It was just an excuse for MAGAers to not seem racist.
The only thing that probably did do any damage was Wikileaks putting out the DNC emails showing that they were willing to throw Bernie Sanders under the bus to make sure the Donors choice in Hillary would win.
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15-06-2018, 08:31 AM | #4 | |||
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Yes The Report is good
showing the real deal that went on. FoxNewsHD is very busy. |
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15-06-2018, 08:44 AM | #5 | |||
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And yet, every action the FBI took during the election season actually helped Trump.
The FBI didn't have it in for trump at all. Maybe a couple of the agents might have, but they didn't do anything about it other than pillow talk text each other. Meanwhile they were leaking information to the trump campaign, and protecting his own investigation being made public. Comey dragging HC over the coals for email servers was using his own too. Trump to this day doesn't use the phone he's supposed to and instead uses one without government encryption. They attacked the clinton foundation for bogus reasons, and yet it's trump that's been using his foundation for illegal means.
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15-06-2018, 10:51 AM | #6 | ||
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Trump has the FBI to thank for getting him into the White House, he's only speaking out about them now because his own corruption is being brought to light |
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15-06-2018, 01:16 PM | #7 | |||
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Trump is Live on all media
Worldwide. He gave FoxNewsHD a exclusive on their own now he has 25 or more Reporters screaming. Trump Shouting Wait - One Question at a time. He is blaming the Top of the FBI and saying the rest of the FBI are doing a great job. He has Hi Jacked my CNN Money HD hour He has just said he will talk to his people now in North Korea. He can talk for hours Off The Cuff, no one can match Trump. Last edited by arista; 15-06-2018 at 01:23 PM. |
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15-06-2018, 01:21 PM | #8 | |||
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Live on all Media he respects the FBI but not the top in charge at the FBI. He is blaming the former President Obama for Crimea Mess. The red line of Nothing etc Last edited by arista; 15-06-2018 at 01:24 PM. |
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15-06-2018, 01:22 PM | #9 | |||
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He had his hour or so
now gone back inside the White House |
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15-06-2018, 01:24 PM | #10 | |||
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15-06-2018, 01:27 PM | #11 | |||
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Of Course but every news station is using bits from what he just said. Ramble as well. Reporters kept shouting North Korea Trump said you people said I was going to War "look at us now" |
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15-06-2018, 01:29 PM | #12 | |||
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He hasn't done anything with DPRK though. He's given concessions but got nothing concrete in return. NK have been playing this game for decades.
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15-06-2018, 01:30 PM | #13 | |||
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They seem to have a bit of a disastrous impact on both campaigns. The problem is: Trump's was so anti-establishment that whatever government or independent bodies were issuing criticism of him, was further fueling his "they don't want us to win!" rhetoric.
The whole organisation investing Hillary for the emails thing 2/3 weeks before the election day was far more damaging and intrusive than a couple of guys saying "let's stop him" via text, though.
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15-06-2018, 01:52 PM | #14 | |||
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but no Air missiles fired for 7 months now. Trump has set in place a Deal and his Secretary Of State is following it up. That's a Fact. |
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15-06-2018, 02:26 PM | #15 | |||
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15-06-2018, 02:46 PM | #16 | |||
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It did as the 1st post of this thread tells you. He is the Business Man President bat poo or not Back in the Day : "stink" Last edited by arista; 15-06-2018 at 02:49 PM. |
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15-06-2018, 02:47 PM | #17 | |||
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Investigators openly suggesting that they are acting to stop any candidate is terrible, whoever it helps. If it was some random employee, then I think very easy to discount.. but this is someone theoretically who gets to decide whether a case is opened or closed... hopefully they at least canned him.
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15-06-2018, 03:01 PM | #18 | |||
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He was writing private text messages, not the FBI manifesto. I'm sure we've all written things such as "I'll kill him" or "I hate her", and this is the exact same thing.
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15-06-2018, 04:33 PM | #19 | |||
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I'm hearing reports that Manafort has been jailed.
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15-06-2018, 05:26 PM | #20 | |||
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He has, he was interfering with witnesses while he was on bail.
Considering it's just a big witch hunt, there sure are a lot of indictments, admissions of guilt, and defendants working with prosecutors.
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15-06-2018, 09:40 PM | #21 | |||
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If someone responsible for an investigation that goes into the investigator against one of my own family members maybe.. and they are caught saying in private, they want to fry 'em, etc.. I'd want them canned, as that's not the right temperament for an investigator. Yeah I saw that on CNN's site earlier. I read his charging document and he has some fairly serious against him, so I guess he is a bit desperate Last edited by Maru; 15-06-2018 at 09:41 PM. |
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15-06-2018, 10:45 PM | #22 | |||
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Forgive me for my Englush Maru but I find it very interesting that when Trump and his clan are called out for the corrupt bully /conmen/woman that they are you say like a sheak little lamb....I seen it on CNN...I maybe wrong but I do get a feeling you are going to find everyhing he and his clan iss found guilty of is fake news.. The indoctratoin is bizzare to watch |
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15-06-2018, 11:12 PM | #23 | |||
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Tbf, it's not really anyone's business who someone does or doesn't support as a candidate (imo). All our opinions are qualified, regardless of which position we take politically. I'm not suggesting the FBI is solely pro-(?)Trump. I think they are incompetent and easily corruptable. I would be just as concerned if Trump replaced the top folk there with his folk and we ended up on the other side of the pendulum... Anyway, I'm not going to go into my political affiliations or who exactly I voted for, honestly, as it's pretty obvious what certain posts will generate as a reaction... so I'll just leave those concerned with the challenge of searching my post history, as I've already covered all that in my prior postings. Last edited by Maru; 15-06-2018 at 11:17 PM. |
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15-06-2018, 11:29 PM | #24 | |||
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I do not believe that posters come any fairer or with more objectivity and integrity. The mere sight of the word; 'Trump' seems to cause some people to lose all objectivity and rationality - in my opinion.
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15-06-2018, 11:50 PM | #25 | |||
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A lot of people call me "fair", but I think it's more I "curate" my threads and keep my posts fairly concise and know when I need to flesh my thoughts out... and so it's harder for anyone to pigeon hole me into one particular box. This is also why I really am opposed to people using political affiliations to throw conversations off track... like yes, duh we're all biased There's nothing new there... we're all swayed by emotion and particular topics, that's why we have to jury selection... Last edited by Maru; 15-06-2018 at 11:54 PM. |
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