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Old 24-06-2018, 12:55 PM #1
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Default USA : Restaurant owner asks Trump press secretary to leave

Well done on her for leaving the Cafe.


[Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on Twitter that she had been at a Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia, on Saturday night when the owner made the request.
She had "politely left" the business, she told her 3 million followers.
She added: "(The owner's) actions say far more about her than about me.
"I always do my best to treat people, including those I disagree with, respectfully and will continue to do so."]


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I guess they could have served her
then spat in her food??

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This happened to the Homeland Security Boss the other day too.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...can-restaurant
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They are completely in favour of bakeries turning away gay people for wedding cakes, so they should be in favour of restaurants turning away customers because they are professional liars.
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They are completely in favour of bakeries turning away gay people for wedding cakes, so they should be in favour of restaurants turning away customers because they are professional liars.
not really the same now is it

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not really the same now is it

If you support the rights of a business to refuse service to someone else, then it's exactly the same.
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not really the same now is it

True, turning people away because of who they love with each other is very different to turning someone away for being a piece of human garbage.
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True, turning people away because of who they love with each other is very different to turning someone away for being a piece of human garbage.
Yup.

If people can turn away others on the grounds of their sexuality then nobody should blink at a business owner turning away someone on account of being a twat.
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keep belittling people and calling them twats and human garbage


and it makes you no better than those you chose to criticise

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keep belittling people and calling them twats and human garbage


and it makes you no better than those you chose to criticise

Given the person whom we are criticising is currently separating kids from their parents and locking them in cages, I'd like to think we're a little better.
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Well they can serve who they want i spose.Did they give a valid reason?Was she drunk or something?
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They are completely in favour of bakeries turning away gay people for wedding cakes, so they should be in favour of restaurants turning away customers because they are professional liars.
Well that comes down to whether you seperate politics from religious beliefs, or not?

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keep belittling people and calling them twats and human garbage


and it makes you no better than those you chose to criticise

LT, let's be real here. You have no horse in this race beyond which one is gonna get you the biggest reaction.
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Well that comes down to whether you seperate politics from religious beliefs, or not?
Apparently not, given that the courts ruled in favour of discrimination.
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It's their call to make I think. Yeah kind of nasty but I think in those situations it is better to turn the other cheek... she is a bit of a loud mouth, for as much as she will say she handles
things with class, I think true grace is to let it go and maybe try to see it from their POV, forgive and move on... they are entitled their opinion and if it were my business and I allowed a situation that made them (the staff) feel uncomfortable (and maybe they tamper with food or cause a scene), I would be doing a wrong for both parties... from what I read about the owner and his own comments, I think he held a respectable position... basically, what other call could he make after he talked to his staff, who were homosexual and quite distraught. I guess, imagine if we ourselves had to hold a celebration for someone we feel holds an adversarial position towards a cause close to our hearts... it would be difficult to be comfortable in that situation. Personally, its not the same as design or art, so wouldnt be a moral issue for me in that particular instance... I would still serve them with grace and good-will... I think that humility is lacking in our culture and the latter does nothing to change people's minds, but serves to further segregate us... but that's me, others will do as they please... (edit) anyway I think we all grow as individuals when we encounter these kinds of situations... whether it means sticking to our guns or learning to allow others the room to open us up to their own differing worldview...

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I guess they could have served her
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Sure but if there get caught there be sacking and big fine
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Sure but if there get caught there be sacking and big fine
And an article about the great big fat check from TMZ for the spitting videos...
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What an odd sort of request to run by CSPAN... "Would you please keep us informed on what happens to that restaurant in case somebody tries to burn it down for her?"... Really??? That's pretty suspicious.

C-SPAN GOP caller suggests someone will burn down restaurant that protested Sarah Sanders

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Turn the words trump press secretary to muslim and blacks and the hypocrites in this thread would be spewing feathers....
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Shes a ****ing press seceratary.....her job is to deal with the press, not to have an opinion....she has done nothing wrong...but she was still persecuted simply for working for trump.....
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Given the person whom we are criticising is currently separating kids from their parents and locking them in cages, I'd like to think we're a little better.
i expect they kill and eat them afterwards in your story?


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Given the person whom we are criticising is currently separating kids from their parents and locking them in cages, I'd like to think we're a little better.


Is she, is she really....show us the documents she has signed demanding trump follows her orders....


Wish i was a press seceratary....you seem to rule the world.
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Shes a ****ing press seceratary.....her job is to deal with the press, not to have an opinion....she has done nothing wrong...but she was still persecuted simply for working for trump.....
Political protest is actually enshrined in their constitution, and that's an interesting use of the word "persecuted". The story is actually better than on the surface; The owner discussed it with the staff and they made the decision together.

This administration is in favour of letting businesses refuse to serve people if they disagree with how they live their lives, so a restaurant refusing to serve someone who lies for trump everyday should be applauded by them, not criticised.

Do you see any hypocrisy in their stance vs gay people compared to their stance vs one of their own?
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Ben Carson should go into this restaurant, it would be interesting to see the reaction if he was chucked out.
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Maxine Waters has called on the public to harass members of Trumps administration.
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