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26-06-2018, 02:22 PM | #51 | |||
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It's the act itself which is the offence; if you brag about it afterwards you've still committed the offence. He is currently embroiled in an important charge against him made by a former contestant on the apprentice that's in the process of progressing through the courts, which may force the surrendering of all the tapes that are currently hidden away by Mark Burnett (creator of the apprentice). It is well known there is some severe stuff on these tapes.
But hey, maybe he was just talking with the lads, and all these women have made stuff up, including his former wife.
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26-06-2018, 02:23 PM | #52 | |||
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26-06-2018, 02:25 PM | #53 | |||
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26-06-2018, 02:27 PM | #54 | |||
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26-06-2018, 02:32 PM | #55 | |||
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7986081.html http://www.newsweek.com/trump-sexual...e-tapes-909013 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ape-tom-arnold
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26-06-2018, 02:33 PM | #56 | |||
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Wow, another great contribution to add to your list of other great contributions.
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26-06-2018, 02:35 PM | #57 | |||
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Because there are women who've accused him of sexual assault (including his wife) from way before the access hollywood tapes were released.
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26-06-2018, 02:37 PM | #58 | |||
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26-06-2018, 02:38 PM | #59 | ||
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You can't twist this situation into being different than the cake situation, if that situation was fine and dandy then no one who believes that the bakery situation was resolved correctly can complain about this at all. |
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26-06-2018, 02:42 PM | #60 | |||
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Bill Gates is a billionaire, how many women have made sexual assault complaints against him? Has his own wife accused him of rape too? Alf, what is your opinion?
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26-06-2018, 02:50 PM | #61 | |||
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If I went into a shop, believing it to sell bacon, and then they told me they didn't, I'd just go elswhere, I certainly wouldn't call Reuters. But if I worked at Asda, and I decided to go to a restaurant, and the owner kicked me out because they don't like Asda, then I'd think that they are a see you next Tuesday. Last edited by Alf; 26-06-2018 at 02:51 PM. |
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26-06-2018, 02:54 PM | #62 | |||
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Sure but that was well before Trump was in Power 12 years back. Bill Clinton was President and doing Sexual Assualt Last edited by arista; 26-06-2018 at 03:06 PM. |
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26-06-2018, 02:55 PM | #63 | |||
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26-06-2018, 02:59 PM | #64 | |||
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26-06-2018, 03:01 PM | #65 | |||
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What's your opinion on trump and his accusers?
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26-06-2018, 03:04 PM | #66 | |||
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26-06-2018, 03:08 PM | #67 | ||
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Again, any justification you have to say on it doesn't really matter because at the end of the day this restaurant is as entitlted to reject Sanders' custom as that bakery was to reject custom on the grounds of their opposition to homsexuality. You can't pick and choose, If you agree with the bakery's right to refuse custom then you can't oppose this situation. The precedent has been set. |
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26-06-2018, 03:21 PM | #68 | |||
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26-06-2018, 03:23 PM | #69 | |||
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26-06-2018, 03:27 PM | #70 | |||
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some person makes a claim from 11 years ago trying to make a buck? puleeze reaching or what |
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26-06-2018, 03:59 PM | #71 | |||
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27-06-2018, 09:37 AM | #72 | |||
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Eh? There's nothing to believe. The point I made earlier in the thread was that one of his accusers has been given the go-ahead to take her case forward, and part of the discovery involved in this could/should lead to the releasing of these tapes. I wasn't saying the fact they exist is any evidence of anything.
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27-06-2018, 09:53 AM | #73 | |||
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27-06-2018, 11:30 AM | #74 | ||
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You can't agree with people rejecting customers because of their homophobia and then oppose someone rejecting custom from a government official because they disagree with the direction the government is going. That's picking and choosing. If you agree with the former, you can't oppose the latter. Last edited by Tom4784; 27-06-2018 at 11:31 AM. |
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27-06-2018, 05:54 PM | #75 | |||
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Imo, if we just keep up with the -phobics, -ist labels... that will lead to the opposite intended result come election time. Those attitudes are already starting to backfire and will lead to those folk who act with indignance to find themselves further isolated...
There are all kinds of worldviews in the world we share with other ppl and we can focus on only just one, and probably inconvenient to have to bother with anyone elses, but I feel like that is living with head in the clouds and only harmful to that person /w a narrow view. Just because we see it our way doesn't mean there aren't other ppl who see another... bigotry to me is being spiteful/venomous towards others when we refuse to accept ppl who outside our own culture. The business owner was following his deeply held religious beliefs... and there is no indication his purpose was malicious here. Just to reiterate, but to try to force our own worldviews will only lead to activists further isolating themselves... will only make them miserable as ppl will eventually move on. I'm fine w the owner kicking out Sanders. We share the world with other ppl, it is not all about us... to live in a world where we have to only accomodate to one group though is not only an unrealistic way of thinking, but is a one-sided worldview. Anyway, the more I hear this rhetoric, the less I care... eventually just won't bother with it anymore to assist those movements which have become so self-referential. It is just not worth it, pleasing those folk anymore. I believe in treating people with humility and tolerance.. not venomous rhetoric. |
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