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Old 09-07-2018, 04:46 PM #26
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If the patient is Transgender then he should refer to their gender that they are now.

I'd have had more sympathy for the guy if it'd have been a patient pretending to be the opposite gender to what they actually are.
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A doctor has been fired from a top government role for suggesting gender is determined at birth.

Dr David Mackereth, 55, who has worked as an NHS doctor for 26 years, was deemed to be 'unfit to work' after he said he would refuse to identify patients by their preferred gender.

The senior doctor was set to become a disability assessor for the Department for Work and Pensions claims a person's gender is biological and said his right to freedom of speech had been denied.

The medic, from Dudley in the West Midlands, fears other 'professional people of faith' could lose their jobs simply for holding opinions about gender that are 'centuries old'.
More fool them the idiots. They are desperate for doctors and they get rid of a perfectly competent one because of PC. He’ll have the last laugh!
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Whether he's right or wrong the patients wishes are the number one priority, if he isn't willing to put his personal beliefs aside he clearly shouldn't be working with the public.
What utter toss.
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A skilled doctor sacked due to one mistake. We need doctors so why get rid of these skilled people over something that’s not to do with their duties?
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A skilled doctor sacked due to one mistake. We need doctors so why get rid of these skilled people over something that’s not to do with their duties?
The PC Bully Brigade turning into the very thing they proport to despise. They want to look in a mirror sometime!

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I don’t think he should be working in the public sector tbh, he’s not ready for it. I’m sure it’d be fairly easy for him to get a job in a place that cares less for transrights if he wants to continue with the occupation, but I can’t say I have sympathy for the guy. He seems stubborn and cruel.
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I don’t think he should be working in the public sector tbh, he’s not ready for it. I’m sure it’d be fairly easy for him to get a job in a place that cares less for transrights if he wants to continue with the occupation, but I can’t say I have sympathy for the guy. He seems stubborn and cruel.
They will drive away all the good doctors who don’t have to put up with such crap! Very forward thinking!
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They will drive away all the good doctors who don’t have to put up with such crap! Very forward thinking!
Fortunately most doctors have a basic understanding of gender so we shouldnt need to worry too much.
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A skilled doctor sacked due to one mistake. We need doctors so why get rid of these skilled people over something that’s not to do with their duties?
He's not been sacked.
He's been declined moving into a position he is unsuitable for.

No need for the overreaction tbh.
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More fool them the idiots. They are desperate for doctors and they get rid of a perfectly competent one because of PC. He’ll have the last laugh!
He hasn't been sacked, though, he's been rejected from a government position.
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He's not been sacked.
He's been declined moving into a position he is unsuitable for.

No need for the overreaction tbh.
“Not been sacked” The thread title says “sacked”
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Fortunately most doctors have a basic understanding of gender so we shouldnt need to worry too much.
As long as PC continues to practice mind-control it will never truly have a basic understanding of the understanding of others.
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As long as PC continues to practice mind-control it will never truly have a basic understanding of the understanding of others.
I swear you’re just parodying yourself at this point.

The living embodiment of political correctness regularly practices ****ING MIND CONTROL so it(?) will never have an understanding of the understanding of others.

Like, real talk, are you ok. This isn’t a normal line of thinking
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I swear you’re just parodying yourself at this point.

The living embodiment of political correctness regularly practices ****ING MIND CONTROL so it(?) will never have an understanding of the understanding of others.

Like, real talk, are you ok. This isn’t a normal line of thinking
You spout about real talk without choking.
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“Not been sacked” The thread title says “sacked”
The thread title is incorrect.

He applied for a position and didn't get it.
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A doctor is interested in biology. That is their driving force for diagnosis and treatment. The doctor should also be sympathetic to a patients circumstances, and if they are not doing that part of the job correctly, they shouldnt be doing the job.
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This is a guy not getting a job as a DWP assessor, not getting sacked as a GP. This is a job where its seen as perfectly fine to ask patients with mental health issues why they haven't attempted suicide yet. And admirable to claim that very disabled people are able to work, against the advice of medical professionals who have treated them long term. Beggars belief that such 'jobs' are still available in the first place tbh.
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The PC Bully Brigade turning into the very thing they proport to despise. They want to look in a mirror sometime!
I'm honesty sick & tired of this PC garbage but its more than that, it's like forcing someone to believe what you believe otherwise you get punishment .

The whole gender non binary thing is out of hand as well , so next thing you know we'll be hearing about a patient not wanting to identity as male or female and how the doctor is a "bigot" for calling them he or she after examination & medical records .

And the article is misleading as I originally thought he lost his job completely, I watched the debate between him and Munroe that trans woman and she was defensive and resorted to name calling and called him a "bigot" .

The DR seems a normal guy that was stating biological facts ,and once again Christianity gets a bashing .
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So this man trains for around ten years to become a GP... he works for the NHS for 20 odd years, and he's sacked because a transgender person may be offended. The doctor himself has been offended because he is a person of faith... although he has presumably not said he would not treat a transgender person.

Hope we don't have a shortage of doctors and nurses when they realise their faith is nothing compared to someone's feelings.
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I'm honesty sick & tired of this PC garbage but its more than that, it's like forcing someone to believe what you believe otherwise you get punishment .

The whole gender non binary thing is out of hand as well , so next thing you know we'll be hearing about a patient not wanting to identity as male or female and how the doctor is a "bigot" for calling them he or she after examination & medical records .

And the article is misleading as I originally thought he lost his job completely, I watched the debate between him and Munroe that trans woman and she was defensive and resorted to name calling and called him a "bigot" .

The DR seems a normal guy that was stating biological facts ,and once again Christianity gets a bashing .
Why is it that male to female transgender people are always the ones up the front making it a ****ing crusade ?And yet we hear hardly anything from female to male trans people.

Is it because these people still think that they should be front and centre with their words being listened to... like when they were a man?

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Yes he was on "this morning" ITV1HD
the other day.

He said he wants no harm to come to any
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Yes he was on "this morning" ITV1HD
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He said he wants no harm to come to any
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Of course he doesn't. Had he said he would treat them differently, or not treat them at all it would have been quite a different case. How many medical staff with a faith treat anyone differently because they're trans, or gay or anything else??
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yes sex is assigned at birth but that isn't what gender is also its the doctors job to make the patient feel comfortable and if that's not what the doctor is doing well
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yes sex is assigned at birth but that isn't what gender is also its the doctors job to make the patient feel comfortable and if that's not what the doctor is doing well
Ethan, I'm glad you came in, I wanted your opinion on this.
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Do you think a doctor should be fired for this?

The doc's job is to make you well and treat you, and if he's doing that adequately, isn't that enough? I, as a hetero born woman, have dealt with male and female doctors who were ****ing obnoxious, but did their job.
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Ethan, I'm glad you came in, I wanted your opinion on this.
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Do you think a doctor should be fired for this?

The doc's job is to make you well and treat you, and if he's doing that adequately, isn't that enough? I, as a hetero born woman, have dealt with male and female doctors who were ****ing obnoxious, but did their job.
hey! ive actually dealt with this previously even though ive had my name changed officially for years one doctor even refused to treat me because of this (he did end up being fired bc someone found out about it) i don't think they should be fired necessarily but i don't think he should get away with it i wouldn't personally try to get a doctor fired for calling me the wrong name but others are a lot less tolerant i guess. i think overall no he shouldn't have been fired and im sure his career is over because of this yet as a doctor he needs to be able to educate himself as [patients are gonna have weirder **** happen to them. idk tho i understand both viewpoints
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