Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 13-07-2018, 11:52 AM #1
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


Default Michael Fabricant MP accused of 'Islamophobia' over crude tweet of Sadiq Khan & a pig

  • Conservative MP Michael Fabricant has been accused of Islamophobia after tweeting a crude photoshopped image of Sadiq Khan.
  • It depicted the London mayor, who is a Muslim, as a giant balloon having sex with a giant balloon pig.
  • Labour MPs are now calling for Fabricant's suspension from the Conservative Party.
  • The politician claims he didn't see Khan's face in the image.

Fabricant subsequently deleted the tweet, and claims he didn't see Sadiq Khan's face in the image before sharing it. "I deleted it as soon as I saw Sadiq Khan’s face on the picture," he said in a tweet. I did not see it was him. He may be a useless Mayor, but he’s a nice guy whom I worked with when he was in Parliament."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michae...ophobia-2018-7

The guy has since explained it was a retweet error and it just goes to show how dangerous twitter when you dont concentrate on what you are doing!
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 11:53 AM #2
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


Default

Lichfield MP Mr Fabricant said: "I did not see the detail on my small iPhone."

"I am genuinely sorry if it caused anyone offence and I am disappointed in the person who sent it to me in the first place."
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 11:56 AM #3
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Default

Saw him on TV last night, his wig looks preposterous lol

The joke? Meh, not arsed. Is Khan bothered? Any reaction from him?
Twosugars is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 11:58 AM #4
Smithy's Avatar
Smithy Smithy is offline
Skinny Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 55,533


Smithy Smithy is offline
Skinny Legend
Smithy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 55,533


Default

Why does he, Boris and trump all have the same terrible hair?
__________________

The scars on my mind are on replay
Smithy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:00 PM #5
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twosugars View Post
Saw him on TV last night, his wig looks preposterous lol

The joke? Meh, not arsed. Is Khan bothered? Any reaction from him?
Yes he was asked about it this morning on LBC and he said he has not seen it but had been told and he sounded a bit upset as they have previous
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:06 PM #6
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,256

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,256

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Similarly to what I thought of Corbyn not looking closely at an image, I say the same about this guy. I don't believe for a moment he didnt know what he was doing
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:07 PM #7
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Twosugars Twosugars is offline
Stiff Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Posts: 9,384
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Yes he was asked about it this morning on LBC and he said he has not seen it but had been told and he sounded a bit upset as they have previous
Tbh idk how a religious Muslim or Jew would see that. Plus Fabricant is not taken seriously even by his own party.
Twosugars is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:15 PM #8
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

I think if you're gonna make a post aimed at a Muslim which involves a pig then it's islamophobic just like it would be inappropriate if it was aimed at a jew or if it involved a cow and was aimed at a Hindu.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:18 PM #9
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,935

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,935

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

While the picture could be anyone when looked at in a glance on a phone screen, who did he think it was? The words right above the image have Sadiq's name in them, so even if he's claiming to think it was just a random guy from the picture, surely the caption would give him a clue?
__________________



Last edited by Oliver_W; 13-07-2018 at 12:18 PM.
Oliver_W is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 12:21 PM #10
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,061
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,061
Default

The Pig
should be in a Hot Dog
LT.

Last edited by arista; 13-07-2018 at 03:22 PM.
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 02:59 PM #11
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,477

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,477

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

No different to someone joking on here about trump grabbing the queens pussy..
Imo of course.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 05:23 PM #12
kirklancaster's Avatar
kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
kirklancaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


Default

He went too far in recirculating this and the original architect went too far in depicting a pig. There would have been nothing wrong in depicting Kahn as a baby a la the Trump balloon.

Except that BOTH are ****ing childish, of course.
__________________
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts". Daniel Patrick Moynihan (1927-2003)
.................................................. ..
Press The Spoiler Button to See All My Songs

kirklancaster is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 05:59 PM #13
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
I think if you're gonna make a post aimed at a Muslim which involves a pig then it's islamophobic just like it would be inappropriate if it was aimed at a jew or if it involved a cow and was aimed at a Hindu.
Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 06:04 PM #14
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.
or to shut down criticism of this superstition
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 06:15 PM #15
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
or to shut down criticism of this superstition
Yep - definitely both!
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 06:27 PM #16
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.
Oh only made up words you agree with are real?...

Or is it because it is so prevalent among people you support and aimed at people you don't like?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 13-07-2018, 07:49 PM #17
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,620

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,620

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Who knew that Fabric could be so cruel!?
__________________


Out with extreme Politics on both sides of the divide.
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 09:38 AM #18
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.
All it means us fear of Islam / fear of Muslims... Which is clearly a very real thing
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 09:44 AM #19
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
All it means us fear of Islam / fear of Muslims... Which is clearly a very real thing
I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!

Last edited by Brillopad; 14-07-2018 at 09:46 AM.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 10:50 AM #20
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Withano
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Withano Withano is offline
Withano
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!
You’ve been really struggling with dictionary-defined words this week.

Things can be words even if you dislike them.

Stomping your feet, crossing your arms and shouting NO doesnt change anything.
__________________
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 10:51 AM #21
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Withano
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Withano Withano is offline
Withano
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Obviously Michael was a dickhead, obviously it wasnt an accident, him pretending that it was at least shows that he cares about his stupidness a tiny bit I suppose.
__________________
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 11:03 AM #22
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,620

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 54,620

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!
We have words like Homophobia and Transphobia, so why not Islamophobia?

I know it won't make me popular on here but I would probably be labelled under Islamophobic myself as I have a lot of serious issues with the Religion's "morals" I will treat individuals of the Religion fine if they're nice to me, but I do intensely dislike the Religion, but then I have a lot of issues with Christianity aswell.

I apologize for going off on a wild tangent btw.
__________________


Out with extreme Politics on both sides of the divide.
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 11:14 AM #23
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 92,784


Default

you chose to be a musllim

therefore islamophobia does not really exist alongside such things as racism and homophobia
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 11:19 AM #24
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic Mock View Post
We have words like Homophobia and Transphobia, so why not Islamophobia?

I know it won't make me popular on here but I would probably be labelled under Islamophobic myself as I have a lot of serious issues with the Religion's "morals" I will treat individuals of the Religion fine if they're nice to me, but I do intensely dislike the Religion, but then I have a lot of issues with Christianity aswell.

I apologize for going off on a wild tangent btw.
So why not Cristianophobia, Catholicophobia or Hinduophobia etc. It’s the deliberate use of the word ‘phobia’ to try to suggest any issues with Islam in particular are ‘irrational’. They are trying to imply it is on par with a ‘clinical diagnosis!

Apparently any criticism of that particular religion can only be an ‘irrational’ one. It is so contrived - and downright disingenuous! Not buying it for a minute!

Last edited by Brillopad; 14-07-2018 at 11:26 AM.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 14-07-2018, 11:59 AM #25
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Withano
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Withano Withano is offline
Withano
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
So why not Cristianophobia, Catholicophobia or Hinduophobia etc. It’s the deliberate use of the word ‘phobia’ to try to suggest any issues with Islam in particular are ‘irrational’. They are trying to imply it is on par with a ‘clinical diagnosis!

Apparently any criticism of that particular religion can only be an ‘irrational’ one. It is so contrived - and downright disingenuous! Not buying it for a minute!
Christophobia and Indophobia are used to describe those things.

Gynophobia is a fear or dislike of women. Is that a made up word with no real meaning?
__________________
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
accused, crude, fabricant, islamophobia, khan, michael, mp, pig, sadiq, tweet

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts