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Jordan. · 26-07-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

RPDR is an adult show though with adult content. I doubt this boy would have been anywhere close to as raunchy and sexualised as RDPR. For me its about the context, if the routine was sexualised and risque fair enough but if it was just a boy in female clothes and makeup dancing about then I think its a reach to compare it to adult content

LeatherTrumpet · 26-07-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

RPDR is an adult show though with adult content. I doubt this boy would have been anywhere close to as raunchy and sexualised as RDPR. For me its about the context, if the routine was sexualised and risque fair enough but if it was just a boy in female clothes and makeup dancing about then I think its a reach to compare it to adult content

And you dont think his whole inspiration came from watching that show?

coz I do

Cherie · 26-07-2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

RPDR is an adult show though with adult content. I doubt this boy would have been anywhere close to as raunchy and sexualised as RDPR. For me its about the context, if the routine was sexualised and risque fair enough but if it was just a boy in female clothes and makeup dancing about then I think its a reach to compare it to adult content

Isn't it the association though? same with those 8 year old pole dancers, there was nothing raunchy about the routine per se but it is just not appropriate for kids. We talk about them growing up too quickly and then try and make excuses to include this, he could sing and dance without being in drag maybe?

the other issue is that the Head has to take into account whoever is involved in this show as well as , parents and kids watching, if they were allowing younger siblings to attend, its not all about this one kid and what he wants, the Head has to please a range of ages in the audience.

Tom4784 · 26-07-2018, 02:03 PM

Saying that something isn't appropriate because you aren't allowed on a a TV show until you are 18 (which is the same for most competition shows tbh) is a desperate reach.

Drag is more than just Drag Race, to dismiss what is an artform as sexualised and inappropriate regardless of the actual content is both closed minded and incredibly ignorant.

The truth of the matter is that the school as a whole was fine with it until the Headteacher heard and it's apparent that her own prejudices and ignorance coloured her decision. He rehearsed with the supervision of teachers fgs.

Tom4784 · 26-07-2018, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't it the association though? same with those 8 year old pole dancers, there was nothing raunchy about the routine per se but it is just not appropriate for kids. We talk about them growing up too quickly and then try and make excuses to include this, he could sing and dance without being in drag maybe?

the other issue is that the Head has to take into account whoever is involved in this show as well as , parents and kids watching, if they were allowing younger siblings to attend, its not all about this one kid and what he wants, the Head has to please a range of ages in the audience.

What's so inappropriate about a boy in a wig dancing around in an outfit that looks like something someone would wear to a job interview for Primark? It's not like he's running around wearing straps and humping the scenery.

By all accounts, the teachers and pupils were happy enough for him to perform. From what I can gather with this story it was the head, who after receiving a list of acts, that had the problem. The teachers didn't raise concerns but this head made a decision based on her own ignorance.

If the performance didn't raise concerns with anyone who supervised the rehearsals then that should say more as to the content of the performance than what is an incomplete view on drag itself. The bull**** excuses about it being illegal (completely false) are just ways for the head to try to justify her hypocrisy. She was uncomfortable with a drag act and so she canned his performance, that's more likely then her truly believing it would be illegal.

The fact she had the gall to say, in the same statement that the school was a welcoming place for all is a joke.

arista · 26-07-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I know. And yet no one's worried about a 14 year old being exploited.

Yes USA News - loves it

14 is very young.

Tom4784 · 26-07-2018, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I know. And yet no one's worried about a 14 year old being exploited.

How would you say he is being exploited?

Toy Soldier · 26-07-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

because the Head is ultimately responsible and knows the rules probably! if it had gone ahead trust me there would be another parent on Good Morning griping about the age of the kid...and the school could have got in trouble for under age content, much the same as schools will only show movies that are U, rather than PG....

Actually, it seems like she lied to the parents about it being "illegal" to pass the buck (when it isn't illegal at all), and then later completely denied that she had ever said it when she was caught out in the lie.

Which is seriously worrying and unprofessional no matter what the context is. Even if she truly believes it isn't appropriate for her school... she should have the conviction to state that instead of pretending that she's consulted her "legal team" and found out that it's illegal

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Denver · 26-07-2018, 02:58 PM

Would you all want a girl to do a strip dance??? Sexualized stuff has no place in schools

Niamh. · 26-07-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Would you all want a girl to do a strip dance??? Sexualized stuff has no place in schools

I don't see how the two are similar?

Denver · 26-07-2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't see how the two are similar?

Everytime I seen a drag act they have always been over the top sexually

armand.kay · 26-07-2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

"If" being the operative word.

I doubt he was going to start throwing dildos into the crowd before kicking off a burlesque performance to the pussycat dolls. Also the fact that other teachers were encouraging him and helping him rehearse leads me to believe that it was age appropriate.

armand.kay · 26-07-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Would you all want a girl to do a strip dance??? Sexualized stuff has no place in schools

Ah yes I forgot lip syncing to a song and stripping are the same

Ammi · 26-07-2018, 03:14 PM

...(...every silly head teacher’s cloud has a silver lining...)...or at least it has for Lewis with the attention this has gained...

Lewis, who came out as gay to his mum and stepdad last year and has performed his drag act for them at home, said he was “heartbroken,” adding that the school told him “it’s because it is illegal – but I think the real reason is they don’t accept me for who I am.”

But he has now accepted an invitation to perform at DragWorld UK, an event which calls itself “Europe’s largest celebration of drag,” and will feature former Drag Race contestants Jinx Monsoon, Bebe Zahara Benet and Farrah Moan.

....his act will now be performed alongside the acts of some of his Queen icons..

...

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/2...ag-race-stars/

Tom4784 · 26-07-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Would you all want a girl to do a strip dance??? Sexualized stuff has no place in schools

I think you need to learn the difference between a strip and a lipsync tbh.

Denver · 26-07-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think you need to learn the difference between a strip and a lipsync tbh.

Clearly the only drag acts you have seen is drag race

parmnion · 26-07-2018, 03:20 PM

Kids will be wanting to blackface next fgs.

Matthew. · 26-07-2018, 03:21 PM

can’t wrap my head round it tbh - that law is bull****, i think what they mean is you can’t go on rupaul’s drag race until you are 18, so the school is out of order for not allowing him to perform imo.

good on the boy and his family for exposing the school, what a carry on!