[Epic.]

Poll incoming

[Denver]

Hardeep

[Rufus]

Honestly I'm neutral about it, both of them extremely overreacted.

[smudgie]

Both of them.
Sally shouldn't have been so insensitive, and Hardeep should have not walked away.

[poppsywoppsy]

Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.

Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.

Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.

[BBDodge]

Sally's comment WAS borderline racist. She should have apologised for being insensitive.

She's a bit dim.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.

Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.

Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.

So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?

She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racistt card was played.

She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well

[RileyH]

Sally obvs

[Robodog]

Let's flip it:

Imagine they were acting out a 'holiday beach' scene instead and Sally told Gabby 'you look too pale for the part, stick some fake tan on'

It's no more racist than that.

[Jack_]

Hardeep

She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well

Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.

All it needed was a reasoned explanation.

[tiger_greengrass]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Hardeep

She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question

Context matters.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.

All it needed was a reasoned explanation.

If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment

[Strictly Jake]

Only watched first section so far but

Sally did say you look to brown

But she went ott when they sat round the table

And maybe hardeep tried to stir it a bit further so...

[joeysteele]

Both for me.
She wasn't being racist at all but perhaps a little insensitive.
They know Hardeep has a thing re race, and is sensitive to it.

If he was expected to think on all he says then that has to apply to all of them too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hardeep was right, Sally is an age 60+ woman she knew fine well what a turban was, she said what she said to either upset Hardeep or to make him kick off

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

Sally obvs

.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.

No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs

[poppsywoppsy]

[QUOTE=Adam.;10212341]If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment[/QUOTE

It sounds as if she didn't know or she would have said the correct words. It was said in the heat of the moment and it was clear she viewed it as a scarf.

How would anyone feel when they have to watch their every word because someone was just waiting to catch them out. As Sally said, it was like walking on glass.

Hardeep has the problem, as Kirstie told him and to his credit he agreed.

[JoshBB]

Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

And not a tear in sight

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs

Even if she did, which I don't believe, she wasn't being malicious at all, just throwing out suggestions for the roleplay.

Thoughtless, silly, but not racist, but didn't he jump on it. Even he said he shouldn't have.