[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I would agree with his Paula. I think all the remarks about his body hair are pretty offensive and personal and they do come over as borderline racist to me. Specially when Sally said something about tying his back hair up like his head hair. Much more offensive and frequent than his sympathetic overtones to Sally about her bunion.

Am i wrong ? i thought the reason why Sikh's wear turbans is because they can't show their hair ?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

Hardeep's the only one who mentions race, since Natalie left.

I guess he has to as he does not benefit from the white privilege the rest do

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I mean I don’t wanan get into a HUGE debate about this because that series was so awful and was filled to the brim with garbage housemates, I can see why you think she’s a chronic complainer and victim with her talking with imran about the housemates, to me that just seemed like she had her guard up and didn’t wanna unravel her life secrets to z listers who had their eye on the prize..

You make loads of good points

And yeah - i don't want a big debate either - esp like you say - it was a cr4p year for HMs!

All good brother

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess he has to as he does not benefit from the white privilege the rest do

honestly he uses the victim role more than that tbh

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just a feeling that there is a little bit of racist behavoir towards Hardeep

Do you think if he was black and not Asian they would treat him better for fear of being racist but as he is Asian (and Scottish) they are more relaxed about showing their true feelings?

The only reason race is even mentioned in this house is due to the big fat chip on Hardeeps shoulder about his own ethnicity

For him to keep referring to himself as the 'brown' housemate is pathetic

I would imagine he uses his race as an excuse in all walks of like, which is really insulting to other people of colour who dont use it as a stick to beat others with

His main problem has nothing to do with colour, his main problem is that he is a supposed 'comedian' who isnt in the least bit funny

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I guess he has to as he does not benefit from the white privilege the rest do

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boooooring

[parmnion]

Defo from sally...more him being scottish than asian though.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I get it a lot from Sally

She looks down her nose at "him"

I dont think that has anything to do with his race, more to do with his disgusting fat body which he seems to enjoy showing at all times

As for his cooking, I would tell him not to cook for me, and would enquire why, as a professional chef (wtf) he cooks with no top on, with all that hair all over his fat disgusting body potentially ending up in my food

Also the way he bashes the f..k out of the chicken before he cooks it, and then doesnt cook it properly at all is vile

I would not have that vermin cooking my food, and as a massive fan of indian cuisine, it has f..k all to do with his race and more to do with the fact he is a disgusting fat ugly bastard

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I dont think that has anything to do with his race, more to do with his disgusting fat body which he seems to enjoy showing at all times

As for his cooking, I would tell him not to cook for me, and would enquire why, as a professional chef (wtf) he cooks with no top on, with all that hair all over his fat disgusting body potentially ending up in my food

Also the way he bashes the f..k out of the chicken before he cooks it, and then doesnt cook it properly at all is vile

I would not have that vermin cooking my food, and as a massive fan of indian cuisine, it has f..k all to do with his race and more to do with the fact he is a disgusting fat ugly bastard

maybe they should play the song i'm sexy and i know it, every time Hardeep goes shirtless


and same i also like Indian food, but also massive fan of their bollywood entertainment industry, music and movies i'm talking about

and race isn't the problem here i agree with you

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I dont think that has anything to do with his race, more to do with his disgusting fat body which he seems to enjoy showing at all times

As for his cooking, I would tell him not to cook for me, and would enquire why, as a professional chef (wtf) he cooks with no top on, with all that hair all over his fat disgusting body potentially ending up in my food

Also the way he bashes the f..k out of the chicken before he cooks it, and then doesnt cook it properly at all is vile

I would not have that vermin cooking my food, and as a massive fan of indian cuisine, it has f..k all to do with his race and more to do with the fact he is a disgusting fat ugly bastard

Oh, how I wish you would say what you think, Miranda. Please try not to hold back so much.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know, it feels like maybe some undertones there but not blatant racism

Yeah. He was always going to be seen as different through no fault of his own, and some perhaps subconsciously allow that to play a role in how they treat him. Whether that could be considered racism or not is up for debate but at the very least it's harsh and uncalled for. And it's quite sad too, really. On the other hand though, there are plenty of white people who have also suffered the same sort of treatment, John, Halfwit, Richard etc. So maybe it really is a case of being ostracised based on personality rather than race, but even still it's pretty rough to watch.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I think the way they keep going on about his hairiness and his cooking has some racist undertones alright.

They were on dodgy ground with the whole row over chicken if they'd had started going down the road of that's how "those" people cook.

I'm seen more racism going on about him outside the house though, even in here, people slagging off him wearing a skirt without even realising it's part of his culture. That's probably more stupidity than anything though.

Yes agree

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Oh, how I wish you would say what you think, Miranda. Please try not to hold back so much.

I love Mirandas straight talking, and long may she continue

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Yeah. He was always going to be seen as different through no fault of his own, and some perhaps subconsciously allow that to play a role in how they treat him. Whether that could be considered racism or not is up for debate but at the very least it's harsh and uncalled for. And it's quite sad too, really. On the other hand though, there are plenty of white people who have also suffered the same sort of treatment, John, Halfwit, Richard etc. So maybe it really is a case of being ostracised based on personality rather than race, but even still it's pretty rough to watch.

He makes himself different by being a Sikh in a kilt !

[Robodog]

I've seen no racism.

If there is a specific example of actual racism in there, then someone please point it out so we can condemn it.


Hardeep's a deliberate wind-up; his behaviour and comments have given PLENTY of reasons for HMs to be annoyed by him.
There's no more grounds to presume racism than there is grounds to presume ageism, sexism, height-ism, or any other 'ism'.

But really - it's just him, as an individual. He winds people up on purpose. His responsibility, he's a smart adult.

No need to cover that with an 'ism'.


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[Twosugars]

so hardeep is not allowed to walk around shirtless because of his "fat disgusting body"?
that's not fair, not everybody looks like a model in real life
a/ he is not that fat, b/not everybody likes to shave/pluck/wax their body hair, especially older people

agree it's not hygenic when cooking but other than that don't have a problem

re.racism, I don't see much of that; he must be sensitive on that issue so tends to see it everywhere even if it's not there

[Aaliyah]

Him being an unhygienic disgusting hairy pig has NOTHING to do with his race. He is not a nice person inside or out, that is regardless of his religion.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

I dont think that has anything to do with his race, more to do with his disgusting fat body which he seems to enjoy showing at all times

As for his cooking, I would tell him not to cook for me, and would enquire why, as a professional chef (wtf) he cooks with no top on, with all that hair all over his fat disgusting body potentially ending up in my food

Also the way he bashes the f..k out of the chicken before he cooks it, and then doesnt cook it properly at all is vile

I would not have that vermin cooking my food, and as a massive fan of indian cuisine, it has f..k all to do with his race and more to do with the fact he is a disgusting fat ugly bastard

Did you say fat and ugly enough times????

What has being fat and ugly got to do with being a housemate?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

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boooooring

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

Him being an unhygienic disgusting hairy pig has NOTHING to do with his race. He is not a nice person inside or out, that is regardless of his religion.

You do know being hairy is actually Sikh tradition? so it is actually Racist

[Twosugars]

there's deffo some body fascism in this thread

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

so hardeep is not allowed to walk around shirtless because of his "fat disgusting body"?
that's not fair, not everybody looks like a model in real life
a/ he is not that fat, b/not everybody likes to shave/pluck/wax their body hair, especially older people

agree it's not hygenic when cooking but other than that don't have a problem

re.racism, I don't see much of that; he must be sensitive on that issue so tends to see it everywhere even if it's not there

Imma not hold a gun to his head and tell him to put a shirt on but I’m not gonna pretend I’d prefer for him to have his shirt off. Dan and Ben and Jermaine, especially the former, have received ample criticism including from me for showing off their body all the time like it’s so transparent why. I hate ppl that are lax with clothing when indoors like I just find it revolting and it’s clear as day dan is trying to show off

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Imma not hold a gun to his head and tell him to put a shirt on but I’m not gonna pretend I’d prefer for him to have his shirt off. Dan and Ben and Jermaine, especially the former, have received ample criticism including from me for showing off their body all the time like it’s so transparent why. I hate ppl that are lax with clothing when indoors like I just find it revolting

best to look past such things, maybe that's how he walks around at home?
at least we can't accuse him of currying favours with his body like Dan and some others
tbh, it's all about personality, not body, or at least it should be
I'm happy to criticise him on what he says or does (farting next to people), but holding his tummy or hairy back against him? no

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

best to look past such things, maybe that's how he walks around at home?
at least we can't accuse him of currying favours with his body like Dan and some others
tbh, it's all about personality, not body, or at least it should be
I'm happy to criticise him on what he says or does (farting next to people), but holding his tummy or hairy back against him? no

Keep in mind hardeep isn’t exactly an old old man he’s 49
Idc too much but it does tie in with some of his well less than hygienic traits eg sctrsching his ass farting

[clairefromsomewhereinnort]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I think the way they keep going on about his hairiness and his cooking has some racist undertones alright.

They were on dodgy ground with the whole row over chicken if they'd had started going down the road of that's how "those" people cook.

I'm seen more racism going on about him outside the house though, even in here, people slagging off him wearing a skirt without even realising it's part of his culture. That's probably more stupidity than anything though.

It is anti Scottish Racism though, they are deliberately saying it s a skirt when they know it s a kilt, which is a skirt, yes, but they are knowingly wrongly calling it skirt rather than kilt to insult his Scottishness. You don t have to be a different colour for it to be racism. Deliberate abuse of others in general because of where they come from generalising about them as many English do about Scottish people is racism too.

REAL REASON FROM START THEY ARE AGAINST HARDEEP AND SO BIASED ( CORRUPTLY SO LIKE CORRUPT SALLY ) AGAINST HIM IS BECAUSE HE IS A GOOD PERSON AND HE TURNS THEIR STOMACHES BECAUSE HE REMINDS THEM ALL THAT THEY AREN T GOOD PEOPLE.