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Old 08-09-2018, 04:16 PM #1
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Default USA: Policewoman entered wrong flat and shot black neighbour dead

[The policewoman thought she was walking into her own home, and mistook her neighbour for an intruder.]


This is terrible
how the Hell can she not know
she was in the Wrong home?


Never live next door to a Stressed Female USA Cop
in Dallas.



[Police intend to charge the woman with manslaughter, and she has been placed on leave in the meantime.]


https://news.sky.com/story/policewom...s-say-11493274
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How the hell did she mess that up asdffg
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Disgusting, hopefully she gets a long sentence for being so trigger happy.
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How the hell did she mess that up asdffg
The other question, how was she able to enter an apartment she didn't have the key for? The family said it was obvious on the inside that things were different as well... so weird.
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Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/07...olice-say.html

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"Somebody has to be crazy not to realize that they walked into the wrong apartment," Allie Jean told NBC News. "He's a bachelor. Things are different inside."
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"It's terrible. I hope it's just a tragic accident and nothing more than that," Tomiya Melvin, who lives nearby, told Dallas News. "This area appealed to me because it always seemed so safe, and so far it has been. But I won't be leaving my door unlocked anymore, that's for sure."


(Edit) Not face-palming the man for leaving his door unlocked as that is not enough to justify this... but rather that other people apparently leave their doors unlocked as well... What???.. I can understand if it were a house in some rural area, but it was an apartment... in Dallas.

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Pathetic. Manslaughter? She murdered the poor man in cold blood!
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Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?

And what on earth was he doing that she thought she would need to shoot him immediately before speaking?

****ing dangerous woman who needs locking up.
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I don't believe it was a mistake. I reckon it was murder and intentional.
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I don't believe it was a mistake. I reckon it was murder and intentional.
Yeah, I'm sure there's more to it
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Pathetic. Manslaughter? She murdered the poor man in cold blood!
Cold blood? Maybe, but if it was self-defense, that wouldn't be the case...the circumstances centering around this very sketchy though so I think this won't go away without some answers... they did drug/alcohol testing as well... we have accidents happen in the US, unfortunately, but this is the strangest one I'd ever come across...

I've never heard of anyone ever walking into the wrong apartment, but it's possible. I'm forgetful though, have been on medications before that made me even more clutzy and woo woo and it's usually the more mundane stuff I will forget... but I never forgot where I lived... walked to the wrong building maybe if I were a newer resident... but with a doorway, it's usually displaced in some manner that you can tell, well it's the 2 door down from X ... next to fire extinguisher... not tucked away into a corner... by the stairs, etc...
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Cold blood? Maybe, but if it was self-defense, that wouldn't be the case..
It clearly was not self defence, she entered HIS home!
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I've never heard of anyone ever walking into the wrong apartment, but it's possible. I'm forgetful though, have been on medications before that made me even more clutzy and woo woo and it's usually the more mundane stuff I will forget... but I never forgot where I lived... walked to the wrong building maybe if I were a newer resident... but with a doorway, it's usually displaced in some manner that you can tell, well it's the 2 door down from X ... next to fire extinguisher... not tucked away into a corner... by the stairs, etc...
She didn't just enter the wrong apartment but shot the man dead on sight.

It can be quite easy I imagine, if you're tired or not concentrating properly to enter the wrong apartment if the door is open. But to shoot the first person you see? No. Definitely more to that.
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Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?

And what on earth was he doing that she thought she would need to shoot him immediately before speaking?

****ing dangerous woman who needs locking up.

Seems even though at her home or near it
she was not expecting anyone in her flat,
so she shot him fast - thinking he broke in?
She was sill in Alert Police Mode
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Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?
Americans I think tend to be more paranoid or at least awkward about our surroundings I think... so that's one... we also don't tend to like to be forced into small talk with folk we don't know we will get on with. So I think our social lives are a bit insular, at worst, anti-social than it used to be...

I've lived in 'burbs and apartments where no one says hi to each other or even hangs around outside their door or on their patio... super paranoid and it was like that in the shops as well... saying hello to people seemed to inconvenience others... though Texas is not generally that because we're more outgoing, so that's a bit odd to me as well, Marsh.

Though... consider the policewoman may have been doing a lot of shift work. Especially if she was a "newboot" and hasn't been in long enough to change to other positions or bid for better hours, then it's likely she was on the late shift... so she will more than likely be coming and going at odd hours. If she's working an EJ (extra job) for extra money which is super common, then she may rarely be home as it is... so it's not unusual if the resident is law enforcement that neighbors will almost never see them... we know a lot of folk and a vast majority work late shift, particularly if it's in the city... we have a neighbor who we see their car, but I have seen them once and I've lived here 3-4 years...

If the folk who live there are saying the opposite though and these two have mingled, then that would be a major red flag for me... it's possible though they were a newer resident as well and just didn't know their surroundings well enough yet... or maybe that was her first time coming home at night possible if you work during the day and get off 6-7... our nights run very late here in Texas, sometimes to 9-10 around summer solstice... but police here do a lot of night shift work, so that wouldn't be common I think... especially in the city...

I will say though, some peace officers don't like to mingle too much with total strangers, especially if they are in an apartment and identifiable. There is retaliation with that job and my husband had "run ins" of his own...(Edit) I forgot to mention as well, also because people will harass them frequently to come handle their ticket or personal drama ... unfortunately some aspects of that work can make some individuals a bit cautious towards strangers. That won't ever change as it's habits that all peace officers develop over time just from what they look out for and be conscious of as part of their work...

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She didn't just enter the wrong apartment but shot the man dead on sight.

It can be quite easy I imagine, if you're tired or not concentrating properly to enter the wrong apartment if the door is open. But to shoot the first person you see? No. Definitely more to that.
Yeah none of it makes any sense. My husband can be jumpy, but not nearly anything like that. Like when in restaurants, etc, he has a bit more anxiety if we sit somewhere where he can't see the doors, doesn't like his back towards total strangers when sitting to eat... all his coworkers/friends outside of work are the same and it's an unspoken rule... we have people in the cities here they will come in and rob at gun-point and kill attendants, so that happens... but the reason for his seating arrangement, they are always trained to not leave their back exposed to inmates, suspects, etc... in fact, altercations have happened to newer recruits who didn't do that in a detention's setting so he's quick to correct newer people on it... in the police academy, they were required by their drill sgts to reverse-park into their parking spot so that the front is facing out for security but also respect (they would go to the parking lot and perform drills, etc) ... anyway, it's been said that it just feels wrong to not park as such after it's been ingrained so long... I won't let him park my car that way though ... but he's always been a reverse-parking kind of guy...

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what do you mean "more facts" she went into an apartment that wasn't hers and shoot her neighbor without question
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Americans I think tend to be more paranoid or at least awkward about our surroundings I think... so that's one... we also don't tend to like to be forced into small talk with folk we don't know we will get on with. So I think our social lives are a bit insular, at worst, anti-social than it used to be...
I'm not expecting her to invite him in for a sleepover.

I don't really socialise with my neighbours, but I recognise them when I see them.

I also know what living room is mine and what is someone else's.
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Yeah none of it makes any sense. My husband can be jumpy, but not nearly anything like that. Like when in restaurants, etc, he has a bit more anxiety if we sit somewhere where he can't see the doors, doesn't like his back towards total strangers when sitting to eat... all his coworkers/friends outside of work are the same and it's an unspoken rule... we have people in the cities here they will come in and rob at gun-point and kill attendants, so that happens... but the reason for his seating arrangement, they are always trained to not leave their back exposed to inmates, suspects, etc... in fact, altercations have happened to newer recruits who didn't do that in a detention's setting so he's quick to correct newer people on it... in the police academy, they were required by their drill sgts to reverse-park into their parking spot so that the front is facing out for security but also respect (they would go to the parking lot and perform drills, etc) ... anyway, it's been said that it just feels wrong to not park as such after it's been ingrained so long... I won't let him park my car that way though ... but he's always been a reverse-parking kind of guy...
My god. Does he not have therapy or anything to help with the anxiety?

That must be so frustrating to be like that in public.
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if she entered the wrong apartment, she clearly committed a crime in killing the resident. The only question should be the extent of her crime, and that cant be judged from a media report
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My god. Does he not have therapy or anything to help with the anxiety?

That must be so frustrating to be like that in public.
It's expected with the work. I just have to make sure to give him some daily therapy at home. But in serious-ness, we're quite conscious of it and how far we let the work seep into our lives and that anxieties are talking about/addressed... they do give ample comp time, personal time, family time (for family issues, medical, etc)... he could take off a whole month and then some from comp for pretty much any reason... our benefits are also excellent so that helps... he's debating scheduling some Acupuncture appts to help with stress, to decomp...

But yeah, that's part of why divorce rate is so high for police work... and suicide... but the Catch-22 of therapy with anything law enforcement, military, if it's on record it can affect promotions... which is kind of understandable really, especially in the military... do we really want to send someone who may pop unexpectedly into a dangerous setting and actually have them lead other people?... so yeah, it could be a red flag for promotion... but they actually told him about a program yesterday, it's anonymous and held by the department... he can come in for counseling, family assistance (like helping with home repairs, etc) and other things... so that was great to hear actually because the pressure to perform keeps people from going... people tend to become very close-knit in that work (and the families as well), so yeah... officers will cry on each other's shoulders or talk privately about something bad if necessary... so that does help a lot I think that it is a very supportive community...

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I'm not expecting her to invite him in for a sleepover.

I don't really socialise with my neighbours, but I recognise them when I see them.

I also know what living room is mine and what is someone else's.
I think I haven't stressed enough how dodgy some Americans can be in a normal social setting. From everything I've read, relative to our overseas comrades, we seem to be significantly more paranoid about random encounters... we're just so independent, so that's part of it as some people here are really hermetic now (particularly the young), and obviously we compete over everything...

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