[mxhunter]

No she didn't have a point at all because she accused Ryan of beating her when the video evidence explicitly showed that he didn't?

But he is a dick, yes.

[Patricia4]

She was in the wrong and I don't think he's a violent man at all.
He is acting big now and that wont get him to win this show.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

No, she didn't.

[Kazanne]

People can get angry,we all do it ,it doesn't mean they hit out, I have said many times I could kill someone,but it's not meant,lots of anger phrases are violent,it doesn't mean the person is ,NO excuses for Roxanne,what she did was downright nasty,whether you like Ryan or not.

[RileyH]

I think so

[Vanessa]

The clip clearly shows that Roxanne was lying. Even she said she got it wrong. He may be hyper, but violent not a chance.

[Cal.]

I bet he gave our Roxanne a right smack

[Vanessa]

If there's someone who is violent that's Roxanne.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody is "innocent". If you think he was a 100% innocent little angel that's your own fault for believing anyone is.

Does it mean suddenly the crazy lady was right and he's a woman beater with a violent temper? No.

This forum is insane.

This....

[kirklancaster]

No, she did not.

Every pet dog is CAPABLE of biting - it is built into their genetic make-up just like every human being is capable of violence for the same reason.

Recognising that the above is a fact does not mean that every dog WILL bite someone or that every human being WILL perpetrate violence against someone because there is a huge difference between CAPABILITY and PROPENSITY, and Ryan - based on everything which we can read about him and everything which we have seen of him - has no more propensity to be violent than any other normal person.

Referring specifically to the incident with Roxanne Pallett, Ryan CLEARLY was NOT being violent towards her, and comparing his conduct in the house with that of his accuser - who seemed to revel in boxing, shadow boxing, wrestling and physically boisterous play-acting - illuminates the shallowness and hypocrisy of Pallett's hysterical claims.

Ryan might be a game-playing fake, but he is ' Not Guity' of any type of physical violence here and therefore Pallett cannot be credited with any type of truthful prediction that he would prove to be violent.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No, she did not.

Every pet dog is CAPABLE of biting - it is built into their genetic make-up just like every human being is capable of violence for the same reason.

Recognising that the above is a fact does not mean that every dog WILL bite someone or that every human being WILL perpetrate violence against someone because there is a huge difference between CAPABILITY and PROPENSITY, and Ryan - based on everything which we can read about him and everything which we have seen of him - has no more propensity to be violent than any other normal person.

Referring specifically to the incident with Roxanne Pallett, Ryan CLEARLY was NOT being violent towards her, and comparing his conduct in the house with that of his accuser - who seemed to revel in boxing, shadow boxing, wrestling and physically boisterous play-acting - illuminates the shallowness and hypocrisy of Pallett's hysterical claims.

Ryan might be a game-playing fake, but he is ' Not Guity' of any type of physical violence here and therefore Pallett cannot be credited with any type of truthful prediction that he would prove to be violent.

Correct

However hot-headed a person Ryan may or may not be,
- there is ZERO excuse for Roxanne's destructive actions and lies towards him

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No, she did not.

Every pet dog is CAPABLE of biting - it is built into their genetic make-up just like every human being is capable of violence for the same reason.

Recognising that the above is a fact does not mean that every dog WILL bite someone or that every human being WILL perpetrate violence against someone because there is a huge difference between CAPABILITY and PROPENSITY, and Ryan - based on everything which we can read about him and everything which we have seen of him - has no more propensity to be violent than any other normal person.

Referring specifically to the incident with Roxanne Pallett, Ryan CLEARLY was NOT being violent towards her, and comparing his conduct in the house with that of his accuser - who seemed to revel in boxing, shadow boxing, wrestling and physically boisterous play-acting - illuminates the shallowness and hypocrisy of Pallett's hysterical claims.

Ryan might be a game-playing fake, but he is ' Not Guity' of any type of physical violence here and therefore Pallett cannot be credited with any type of truthful prediction that he would prove to be violent.

well said Kirk.

[arista]

Originally Posted by ShakeyJake10

I thought ryan was harmless

But recently he comes across very argumentive

He said he would kill someone if they spoke to his nan like that

And in chat with nick about prison he said...ONLY a punch in the face

Did roxanne slightly have a correct point knowing him beforehand

No Ryan was Play hitting
but that brought back a bad memory
for Roxanne, she then went well over he top.
Getting ch5 clips on bbc1 breakfast
which is rare.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by ShakeyJake10

I thought ryan was harmless

But recently he comes across very argumentive

He said he would kill someone if they spoke to his nan like that

And in chat with nick about prison he said...ONLY a punch in the face

Did roxanne slightly have a correct point knowing him beforehand

Roxanne has had 21 co stars !!! probably more complain and speak out against her.

Even if you dislike Ryan,why backtrack and assume Roxanne has some ludicrous point ?? when she's clearly a disturbed nutter! .

Ryan has been a bit manipulated by Sally,if anything it should remind you of how Roxanne manipulated Ben .

[girlfighter1992]

No she didn't they probably didn't like each other before the show but no one excuse what she did to Ryan.

Ryan is hyper but that is just him he is no way violent

[Vicky.]

No she didn't. And I think tis quite ridiculous that just because the finals coming up and it looks like he has a good chance of winning, all of a sudden people are trying to paint him as some aggressive violent person. Like, yeah, you don't want him to win, but smearing people like this is just daft.

Its been SO noticeable this year as I haven't watched the show really. Watched launch then watched a bit of the Roxanne rubbish as everyone was talking about it, but beyond that no. Its so odd to watch the forum when not watching the show actually

[girlfighter1992]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No she didn't. And I think tis quite ridiculous that just because the finals coming up and it looks like he has a good chance of winning, all of a sudden people are trying to paint him as some aggressive violent person. Like, yeah, you don't want him to win, but smearing people like this is just daft.

Its been SO noticeable this year as I haven't watched the show really. Watched launch then watched a bit of the Roxanne rubbish as everyone was talking about it, but beyond that no. Its so odd to watch the forum when not watching the show actually

Completely agree with the BIB there has been a lot of smearing him as a violet person

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by girlfighter1992

Completely agree with the BIB there has been a lot of smearing him as a violet person

I can understand people finding Ryan a bit annoying & hyper ,but this is ridiculous especially when those same people were on Ryan's side over the Roxanne ordeal 2 weeks ago .

[blisstheassassin]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No she didn't. And I think tis quite ridiculous that just because the finals coming up and it looks like he has a good chance of winning, all of a sudden people are trying to paint him as some aggressive violent person.

Agreed. One thing that I can't stand in general is negative campaigning. You can support your favourite without destroying the competition.

[Matthew.]

no she’s just a manipulative awful person

ryan might be a bit of a dick but he wouldn’t harm anyone

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

no she’s just a manipulative awful person

ryan might be a bit of a dick but he wouldn’t harm anyone

And nobody mention's Dan's ex .

[Paula D]

I think he does have an aggressive side to him when he drinks but was he aggressive towards Roxanne? No. Definitely not.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I think he does have an aggressive side to him when he drinks but was he aggressive towards Roxanne? No. Definitely not.

Dan's recorded audio towards his ex showed him to be more aggressive, but because people fancy him they ignore that .

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

no she’s just a manipulative awful person

ryan might be a bit of a dick but he wouldn’t harm anyone

He was arrested for disorderly conduct.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Dan's recorded audio towards his ex showed him to be more aggressive, but because people fancy him they ignore that .

This. Dan is way more aggressive, but gets away with it because if his looks.