[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Also one minute the drawring of naomi looks like her and then it doesn't because its just a bg cartoon thats not ment to represent her. So whats the truth?

Just dispelling your myth she does not have blonde hair

what do you want to have a go at now?

The umpire's shoes?

[armand.kay]

Lol

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Are you saying that black women shouldnt be alound to be passionat or angry anout somwthinf because of the stereotype. Why can white men get heated and break their rackets without it reflecting badly on the entire group? Athleats getting angry during a game is nothing new, its unfair that serena is being portayed as a monster for losing her rag.

Exactly.

[Tom4784]

What a messy situation, I don't get the logic of punishing a player for being coached, surely they should just send the offending coach away while the game is ongoing? Punishing the player seems a bit silly.

She should have tried to communicate her point better but I definitely think she got a penalty because she was a woman because male players have been vocal and aggressive to umpires without any kind of penalty. That's a massive imbalance there.

I also think, due to the newspaper cartoon that's went viral, this has become a race issue. She's being painted as the angry black woman when, if she was a white man or a woman, she wouldn't be seen in the same way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by James

She had a tantrum. Emotions get the better of players sometimes. That's happened in tennis many times in the past, and will happen many times in the future. It's like this forum on Monday if Ryan wins CBB.

The unfair part though is accusing the umpire of being sexist. Stuff like that has consequences. You can't just throw that kind of accusation out without backing it up.

Call me physic

[bitontheslide]

Just to point out that McEnroe got loads of penalty points during his career, referees were called in etc etc ... and he was a white male

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

McEnroe is a really extreme example though tbf BOTS, he was more famous for his tantrums than anything else. It would be ridiculous to compare him with Serena

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Germyle

Whew! The white people are mad

That makes a change, it's usually the Brown ones.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Why was Naomi drawn as a blond white woman?

I don't think much effort/focus was put into actually drawing a cartoon of the umpire or Naomi. Just on the Serena drawing as she is the focus of the caricature. Much like the Donald Trump ones.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

you obviously were not around when McEnroe was vilified in this country, and how he was treated by spitting image


so sorry, your point is not valid

Tbh, the point he made to you is valid.

You defended the point that the drawing DOES in fact look like her, and then defended it for NOT looking anything like her.

Either it does or it doesn't.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

McEnroe is a really extreme example though tbf BOTS, he was more famous for his tantrums than anything else. It would be ridiculous to compare him with Serena

McEnroe is quite entertaining now though in his segment on game, set, mats



Mats Wilander is a good expert for the slam day highlights, discussions before and after the matches, he was full of praise to Naomi Osaka, but he was also quite shocked that Serena had lost the final while she had been playing amazing throughout the US Open now

[LeatherTrumpet]

sigh

yes its just the women players who get the violations and warnings...


https://news.sky.com/story/serena-wi...upset-11494215

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

McEnroe is quite entertaining now though in his segment on game, set, mats



Mats Wilander is a good expert for the slam day highlights, discussions before and after the matches, he was full of praise to Naomi Osaka, but he was also quite shocked that Serena had lost the final while she had been playing amazing throughout the US Open now

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final.......

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final.......

and the audience boo's were unnecessary when all they needed to do was to cheer for Naomi, those boo's made her probably a bit uncomfortable there, so also great of Serena saving Naomi's celebrations in her speech

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final.......

she is on the wane and that is the reason for her aggressive tantrum

I expect more will follow as she gets spanked by teenagers more and more?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she is on the wane and that is the reason for her aggressive tantrum

I expect more will follow as she gets spanked by teenagers more and more?

Getting to the final = On the wane Massive compliment to just how good she actually is like I said

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Getting to the final = On the wane Massive compliment to just how good she actually is like I said

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

tbh most of the WTA fans i know on Tennisforum aren't complaining about the quality so far, it's good entertainment anyway for us

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

tbh most of the WTA fans i know on Tennisforum aren't complaining about the quality so far, it's good entertainment anyway for us

are you still a fan of the lady who had the breast reduction?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

are you still a fan of the lady who had the breast reduction?

yes, when she wins she's a fab queen of wta, and when she loses she's the queen of entertainment


she now has a 2.100 point lead over the no.2 Wozniacki, so she's doing well getting to that 2nd year end #1 in a row

[bitontheslide]

Serena is passed her prime, doesn't mean she is not still an incredibly good tennis player. I haven't heard of her having meltdowns before and this isn't her first ever defeat. Unless it becomes a pattern, we could at this point assume it was a bad day at the office for whatever reason. We have all had them.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Serena is passed her prime, doesn't mean she is not still an incredibly good tennis player. I haven't heard of her having meltdowns before and this isn't her first ever defeat. Unless it becomes a pattern, we could at this point assume it was a bad day at the office for whatever reason. We have all had them.

Well she did once tell a (female) line judge that she would 'shove this ****ing ball down your ****ing throat' when she was called for a foot fault

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well she did once tell a (female) line judge that she would 'shove this ****ing ball down your ****ing throat' when she was called for a foot fault

bang goes that theory then