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Old 02-10-2018, 10:54 PM #26
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She didn't want to talk about it and he should have respected her wishes as he knew she was upset, would you not back off if you could see someone was upset?
Not when she was throwing shade at him. Did you miss it or something?
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Not when she was throwing shade at him. Did you miss it or something?

It's a case of not wanting to see what you don't want to see..

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It's a case of not wanting to see what you don't want to see..
I agree
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...but she did and started to make digs. Perhaps she should have walked away. If Lewis winds her up so much go and chat to others...we never see her chat to anyone else do we?
Tbf I was only half watching it at that point. What were the digs?
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Lewis - pretty on the outside, ugly on the inside

and he has the cheek to quote Dalai Lama in the diary room
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He was my worst kind of antagonist tonight. I hate people who repeat and then deflect arguments back and then can't see that they are looking for a fight. Kay asked him to leave it...he couldn't and picked. Awful trait in a person
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Tbf I was only half watching it at that point. What were the digs?

She said she didn't want to talk about it..then continued to talk about it hence Lewis defending himself..and the whole thing escalating.
One of them should have walked away...they were as bad as each other wanting to have the upper hand...but she wouldn't let it drop and neither did he. It wasn't one sided.
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She said she didn't want to talk about it..then continued to talk about it hence Lewis defending himself..and the whole thing escalating.
One of them should have walked away...they were as bad as each other wanting to have the upper hand...but she wouldn't let it drop and neither did he. It wasn't one sided.
she asked him to stop, that she didnt want to talk about it, but he wouldnt let it rest ... he poked and poked and then got more and more aggressive while she remained completely calm and placating

I get that some people dislike Kay and that's fine, but it was as clear as day who the guilty party was there. Cameron and him know the have ****ed up, hence their conversation in the bathroom.
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He was my worst kind of antagonist tonight. I hate people who repeat and then deflect arguments back and then can't see that they are looking for a fight. Kay asked him to leave it...he couldn't and picked. Awful trait in a person
But Kay is equally as guilty of this behaviour...she did it with Cameron last night in the bedroom creating an arguement..being sarcastic. When he came back at her she didn't like it and then just patronised him saying he was childish...then running to the diary room wanting to leave again..she can dish it but can't take it.
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He just would not let it go...
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But Kay is equally as guilty of this behaviour...she did it with Cameron last night in the bedroom creating an arguement..being sarcastic. When he came back at her she didn't like it and then just patronised him saying he was childish...then running to the diary room wanting to leave again..she can dish it but can't take it.
Oh, I'm in no way saying she is innocent, I was commenting on the thread and I agreed Lewis was awful tonight. I've said all along Kay is an actress and knows how to work a situation but in the case of tonight's episode, that was Lewis' vitriol
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she asked him to stop, that she didnt want to talk about it, but he wouldnt let it rest ... he poked and poked and then got more and more aggressive while she remained completely calm and placating

I get that some people dislike Kay and that's fine, but it was as clear as day who the guilty party was there. Cameron and him know the have ****ed up, hence their conversation in the bathroom.

He should have let it rest...I don't disagree with that. However...why didn't she walk away from the situation?...because she can't...she is her own worst enemy and thinks she's better than anyone else. She likes to be in control and she locked horns with someone equally as stubborn. It became a mind game with them both..and she lost.
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that was mental bullying, no doubt about it
For sure and I do feel he manipulated playing the victim with Lewis G too. He is a dire individual who sucks the life out of anyone he is around like sort of vampire. This show is fading away for me with him featuring so much now and his diary room muscle show made me want to puke.
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What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.
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It's a case of not wanting to see what you don't want to see..
Look closer to home for that.
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Look closer to home for that.
Several have said that Lewis was not correct tonight.

You can say it about your favourite, they are not perfect and Kay certainly wasn't without fault.
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For sure and I do feel he manipulated playing the victim with Lewis G too. He is a dire individual who sucks the life out of anyone he is around like sort of vampire. This show is fading away for me with him featuring so much now and his diary room muscle show made me want to puke.

Tbf Kay has played the victim for the last 2 weeks....she has equally sucked the life out of the house with her vegan rants and 'deep' conversations. Her fake smiley happy-go-lucky personae.
Why else has no one warmed to her...needy higher-than-thou attitude has bought no real friendships.
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Several have said that Lewis was not correct tonight.

You can say it about your favourite, they are not perfect and Kay certainly wasn't without fault.
Not getting into a debate about it so you can manipulate whatever is said and deflect it. I see very plainly what's going on
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Tbf Kay has played the victim for the last 2 weeks....she has equally sucked the life out of the house with her vegan rants and 'deep' conversations. Her fake smiley happy-go-lucky personae.
Why else has no one warmed to her...needy higher-than-thou attitude has bought no real friendships.
She was nominated by a lot of her housemates but not Lewis.

He didn't need to.
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Not getting into a debate about it so you can manipulate whatever is said and deflect it. I see very plainly what's going on
How very like Kay's philosophy. Spot on.
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How very like Kay's philosophy. Spot on.
Just as yours in very like Lewis F's tonight. Touché.
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Look closer to home for that.
Really?...I have said Lewis should have let it go. He was at fault too...but she isn't blameless.
Read my posts...
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Not getting into a debate about it so you can manipulate whatever is said and deflect it. I see very plainly what's going on

Debate is what this forum is about. What you see 'plainly' simply isn't what everyone else sees..
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Really?...I have said Lewis should have let it go. He was at fault too...but she isn't blameless.
Read my posts...
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What I thought was also telling was when she was in the garden after spending the night in the other bedroom.

She went and sat as near to Lewis as she could. It is what she does, she is sneaky in her ways to wring every bit of sympathy and goad Lewis into confrontation. She could have sat anywhere but No.
Yes, I noticed that. I wondered why she had chosen to sit right next to where he was when there were numerous other sunny spots and chairs in the garden. I do think Lewis was definitely out of order tonight, but Kay's behaviour is somewhat odd and she seems to try to provoke a reaction from others.

The dynamic between the two of them is very strange and unhealthy to say the least.
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