[clairefromsomewhereinnort]

Whether you believe or not that Kay was all to blame for what happened between her, Lewis F and Cameron or not. And I'm not saying she was perfect, I think on balance that Lewis F and Cameron were MAINLY to fault. Here's why :-

Lewis F is an aggressive little f u c k er who won t give up on an argument and who tries to dictate till someone is FORCED to agree with him as he proved last night when he went after Kay. AND THE BIG THING BEHIND IT IS HE IS A CHILDISH LITTLE F U C K E R who can never admit he's wrong, that's why everyone HAS TO agree with him to get him to leave them alone and to have peace and quiet away from him. Plus he's constantly whinged and moaned about everything in a constant whingy aggressive voice all series which is very irritating to listen to, tone of his voice I mean, and he needs to be a Man, a real Man and admit to his own faults and when he is wrong.

Cameron as he said himself in last nights BB "I always have this problem" in his dealings with other people, so its, by his own admission, wasn't just with Kay, it s a problem with how people misunderstand him or treat him "Always" by what Cameron said. His main problem is his lack of Empathy as ALL or most Tories have a problem with and he doesn't know how to talk to people in a naturally human way. He just talks to them in a business like cold way. So that's why people get up with him and get irritated by him. AND AGAIN. LIKE WTH LEWIS F. GROW UP. AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO ADMIT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG SOMETIMES.

I must admit that I have a slight bias against Cameron but only for fair reasons, not started by me but started by BB and by Cameron allowing him to enter house with that biased Political Opinion at start of show which I found quite rightly bang out of order because it was so Undemocratic allowing him to do that, which can lead people watching how to vote.

I know BB wouldn't allow a left wing, anti-system person like me or any of us to enter the house with a similar but Anti-Tory Anti System comment as we walked in which may influence the way people vote. To not allow other side to do the same is HIGHLY UNDEMOCRATIC just allowing one side to do it, and I ve noticed there's always been a lot more comment biased to the Tories amongst housemates on show than by people against the Tories or the f system.

HAVENT WE GOT ENOUGH BIAS IN OUR MEDIA ALREDAY ? IT IS A FACT IF ANY OF YOU RESEARCH IT THAT OVER 90 % OF OUR MEDIA IS TORY BIASED ALREADY AND MOST OF IT IS OWNED BY TAX AVOIDERS, THE JOURNALISTS SCARED TO PROTECT THEIR OWN JOBS JUST STICKING TO SAYING WHAT THEIR RICH TORY SUPPORTING SOMETIMES DONATING INTO THE TORY PARTY OWNERS WANT THEM TO SAY.

SO ENOUGH BIAS IN THE MEDIA ALREADY WHICH MOST PEOPLE FALL FOR, SO DO WE NEED ANY MORE BIAS ?

I M NOT GOING INTO POLITICAL DETAIL I M JUST MAKING THE POINT IT WAS WRONG TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT AS HE WALKED ON WHEN I KNOW THEY WOULDNT ALLOW ANY TRUE LEFT WING OR ANTI-SYSTEM, PERSON TO WALK ON WITH A SIMILAR ANTI SYSTEM OR ANTI TORY MESSAGE. I D PREFER IT BE KEPT TOTALLY NON POLITICAL AS IT SHOULD BE BUT IT HASN T ALWAYS BEEN KEPT THAT WAY BIAS HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO THE TORIES WHEN WE HAVE NO NEED OF IT COS ALREDAY ENOUGH BIAS IN OUR MEDIA TO THEM WHICH IS JUST MAINLY TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF THESE RICH UNELCTED TAX AVOIDING OWNERS OF MOST MEDIA AND THEIR FRIENDS. IF YOU RE GONNA ALLOW ONE SIDE THEN ALLOW THE OTHER OTHERWISE IT S TOTALLY UNDEMOCRATIC.

Also ethers a big difference between me and Cameron. I genuinely hate Politics, and don't enjoy it too. I'm just very soft hearted, that's why I've been unable in the past to stop myself getting involved in it. AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CAMERON IS THAT I HAVE READ MOST BOOKS BY THE SO CALLED HEROES OF THE TORY PARTY AND GEN HAVE QUALIFICATIONS IN ECONOMICS AS PART OF MY OVERALL QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS READING ALL THE BOOKS OF THE LEFT, rather than just copying and repeating the propaganda in that mainly Tax Avoider Tory Biased Media like he and most of the public do. I bet hes never once read any of the books of the left, to realise that the real thing has never happened yet, cos, obviously it hasn't been allowed to, again by the richest capitalists cos of course they had most power with that too, the richest unelected have always had the most power, so they made sure with their wealth that true Socialism or Communism has never been allowed to happen. Anyway bet he's not read any of books of left, whereas I've read their books, so I know what I'm talking about, he doesn't. I do that cos I'm soft hearted couldn't help getting involved but also cos I think I owe a Responsibility to other people as anyone about to vote does, cos its really true that most Media, is always printed with a biased opinion behind it, they don t just state facts and figures as News and their biased opinions which always lie behind every story in the genuinely 90 % + biased to Tories mainly Owned by Tax Avoiders Media is always meant to lead most public to vote the way the Tax Avoiding Tory Supporting Owners want them to vote for the interests of these Owners and their Rich Tax Avoiding friends, and I feel I have a duty to know what the f u c k I'm talking abut before voting rather than just copying and repeating that propaganda which Cameron did and which most do cos its easier, avoids the hard work, of really finding out about Politics and the truth behind their biased opinions which lie behind every story in the 90 % + Biased to Tories mainly Tax Avoider Owned Media. Tax Avoidance which the Tories do so little about because most of their friends are Tax Avoiders of course plus lot of money donated into Tory Party is from Tax Avoiders is by far the biggest problem with the UK economy and its not just the Tories pathological determination whenever they are in to try and privatise the NHS its also because of the sheer lack of funds available to it, which means many of the ordinary general public die younger because of it, its largely cos of all their tax avoidance WHICH IS A BARE **** JUST MINIMUM**** PREDICTED FIGURE OF 120 Bn a year, which is a bare minimum, probably more, predicted figure of 120,000 M or 120,000,000,000 or a bit over 10% of our economy stolen EVERY YEAR from our economy by the Tax Avoiding Tory Biased Owners of most Media and their friends. That s why the NHS is so short of funds and is struggling so much that leads to people dying younger which is why I m so disgusted by it and disgusted by the biased publicity they were allowed with Cameron ignorantly just cos its easier copying and repeating their propaganda when entering the house cos the media is already biased enough with 90 % + of it already owned by and mainly catering to the interests fo the rich unelected owners of most media who are Tory biased. Why ? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE TORIES DO LEAST TO TACKLE TAX AVOIDANCE COS LOT OF DONATORS TO TORY PARTY ARE TAX AVOIDERS PLUS THE MEDIA IS MAINLY OWNED BY TAX AVOIDERS WHO THEY MAINLY WANT TO KEEP ON SIDE THOUGH NO NEED COS THESE PEOPLE ARE MAINLY BIASED TO THE TORIES ANYWAY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS COS THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH MORE TAX AVOIDANCE WITH THEM SO THE TAX AVOIDING OWNERS OF THE MEDIA OF COURSE ARE BIASED TO THE TORY PARTY COS THEY ALLOW THEM TO GET AWAY WITH AVOIDING TAX THE MOST regardless cos these people don't give a flying f u c k how many people die younger cos of what that lack of funding mainly cos of their tax avoidance is doing to the NHS.

[BBDodge]

Even if he wasn't a Tory, Cameron would still be a dick.

[RileyH]

tldr

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by RileyH

tldr

Tories aren’t human

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by clairefromsomewhereinnort

Whether you believe or not that Kay was all to blame for what happened between her, Lewis F and Cameron or not. And I'm not saying she was perfect, I think on balance that Lewis F and Cameron were MAINLY to fault. Here's why :-

Lewis F is an aggressive little f u c k er who won t give up on an argument and who tries to dictate till someone is FORCED to agree with him as he proved last night when he went after Kay. AND THE BIG THING BEHIND IT IS HE IS A CHILDISH LITTLE F U C K E R who can never admit he's wrong, that's why everyone HAS TO agree with him to get him to leave them alone and to have peace and quiet away from him. Plus he's constantly whinged and moaned about everything in a constant whingy aggressive voice all series which is very irritating to listen to, tone of his voice I mean, and he needs to be a Man, a real Man and admit to his own faults and when he is wrong.

Cameron as he said himself in last nights BB "I always have this problem" in his dealings with other people, so its, by his own admission, wasn't just with Kay, it s a problem with how people misunderstand him or treat him "Always" by what Cameron said. His main problem is his lack of Empathy as ALL or most Tories have a problem with and he doesn't know how to talk to people in a naturally human way. He just talks to them in a business like cold way. So that's why people get up with him and get irritated by him. AND AGAIN. LIKE WTH LEWIS F. GROW UP. AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO ADMIT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG SOMETIMES.


I must admit that I have a slight bias against Cameron but only for fair reasons, not started by me but started by BB and by Cameron allowing him to enter house with that biased Political Opinion at start of show which I found quite rightly bang out of order because it was so Undemocratic allowing him to do that, which can lead people watching how to vote.

I know BB wouldn't allow a left wing, anti-system person like me or any of us to enter the house with a similar but Anti-Tory Anti System comment as we walked in which may influence the way people vote. To not allow other side to do the same is HIGHLY UNDEMOCRATIC just allowing one side to do it, and I ve noticed there's always been a lot more comment biased to the Tories amongst housemates on show than by people against the Tories or the f system.

HAVENT WE GOT ENOUGH BIAS IN OUR MEDIA ALREDAY ? IT IS A FACT IF ANY OF YOU RESEARCH IT THAT OVER 90 % OF OUR MEDIA IS TORY BIASED ALREADY AND MOST OF IT IS OWNED BY TAX AVOIDERS, THE JOURNALISTS SCARED TO PROTECT THEIR OWN JOBS JUST STICKING TO SAYING WHAT THEIR RICH TORY SUPPORTING SOMETIMES DONATING INTO THE TORY PARTY OWNERS WANT THEM TO SAY.

SO ENOUGH BIAS IN THE MEDIA ALREADY WHICH MOST PEOPLE FALL FOR, SO DO WE NEED ANY MORE BIAS ?

I M NOT GOING INTO POLITICAL DETAIL I M JUST MAKING THE POINT IT WAS WRONG TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT AS HE WALKED ON WHEN I KNOW THEY WOULDNT ALLOW ANY TRUE LEFT WING OR ANTI-SYSTEM, PERSON TO WALK ON WITH A SIMILAR ANTI SYSTEM OR ANTI TORY MESSAGE. I D PREFER IT BE KEPT TOTALLY NON POLITICAL AS IT SHOULD BE BUT IT HASN T ALWAYS BEEN KEPT THAT WAY BIAS HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO THE TORIES WHEN WE HAVE NO NEED OF IT COS ALREDAY ENOUGH BIAS IN OUR MEDIA TO THEM WHICH IS JUST MAINLY TO SERVE THE INTERESTS OF THESE RICH UNELCTED TAX AVOIDING OWNERS OF MOST MEDIA AND THEIR FRIENDS. IF YOU RE GONNA ALLOW ONE SIDE THEN ALLOW THE OTHER OTHERWISE IT S TOTALLY UNDEMOCRATIC.

Also ethers a big difference between me and Cameron. I genuinely hate Politics, and don't enjoy it too. I'm just very soft hearted, that's why I've been unable in the past to stop myself getting involved in it. AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CAMERON IS THAT I HAVE READ MOST BOOKS BY THE SO CALLED HEROES OF THE TORY PARTY AND GEN HAVE QUALIFICATIONS IN ECONOMICS AS PART OF MY OVERALL QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS READING ALL THE BOOKS OF THE LEFT, rather than just copying and repeating the propaganda in that mainly Tax Avoider Tory Biased Media like he and most of the public do. I bet hes never once read any of the books of the left, to realise that the real thing has never happened yet, cos, obviously it hasn't been allowed to, again by the richest capitalists cos of course they had most power with that too, the richest unelected have always had the most power, so they made sure with their wealth that true Socialism or Communism has never been allowed to happen. Anyway bet he's not read any of books of left, whereas I've read their books, so I know what I'm talking about, he doesn't. I do that cos I'm soft hearted couldn't help getting involved but also cos I think I owe a Responsibility to other people as anyone about to vote does, cos its really true that most Media, is always printed with a biased opinion behind it, they don t just state facts and figures as News and their biased opinions which always lie behind every story in the genuinely 90 % + biased to Tories mainly Owned by Tax Avoiders Media is always meant to lead most public to vote the way the Tax Avoiding Tory Supporting Owners want them to vote for the interests of these Owners and their Rich Tax Avoiding friends, and I feel I have a duty to know what the f u c k I'm talking abut before voting rather than just copying and repeating that propaganda which Cameron did and which most do cos its easier, avoids the hard work, of really finding out about Politics and the truth behind their biased opinions which lie behind every story in the 90 % + Biased to Tories mainly Tax Avoider Owned Media. Tax Avoidance which the Tories do so little about because most of their friends are Tax Avoiders of course plus lot of money donated into Tory Party is from Tax Avoiders is by far the biggest problem with the UK economy and its not just the Tories pathological determination whenever they are in to try and privatise the NHS its also because of the sheer lack of funds available to it, which means many of the ordinary general public die younger because of it, its largely cos of all their tax avoidance WHICH IS A BARE **** JUST MINIMUM**** PREDICTED FIGURE OF 120 Bn a year, which is a bare minimum, probably more, predicted figure of 120,000 M or 120,000,000,000 or a bit over 10% of our economy stolen EVERY YEAR from our economy by the Tax Avoiding Tory Biased Owners of most Media and their friends. That s why the NHS is so short of funds and is struggling so much that leads to people dying younger which is why I m so disgusted by it and disgusted by the biased publicity they were allowed with Cameron ignorantly just cos its easier copying and repeating their propaganda when entering the house cos the media is already biased enough with 90 % + of it already owned by and mainly catering to the interests fo the rich unelected owners of most media who are Tory biased. Why ? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE TORIES DO LEAST TO TACKLE TAX AVOIDANCE COS LOT OF DONATORS TO TORY PARTY ARE TAX AVOIDERS PLUS THE MEDIA IS MAINLY OWNED BY TAX AVOIDERS WHO THEY MAINLY WANT TO KEEP ON SIDE THOUGH NO NEED COS THESE PEOPLE ARE MAINLY BIASED TO THE TORIES ANYWAY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS COS THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH MORE TAX AVOIDANCE WITH THEM SO THE TAX AVOIDING OWNERS OF THE MEDIA OF COURSE ARE BIASED TO THE TORY PARTY COS THEY ALLOW THEM TO GET AWAY WITH AVOIDING TAX THE MOST regardless cos these people don't give a flying f u c k how many people die younger cos of what that lack of funding mainly cos of their tax avoidance is doing to the NHS.

Yass Clare from opp north

[tanussa]

wow, thats one hell of a rant. unfortunately the only thing it does prove is that you dont like lewis or cameron. kay had a way or winding the HMs up individually. the others just moaned behind her back whereas lewis & cameron would have it out with her. its not their fault she couldnt handle discussing differences. atleast they were honest to her face