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05-10-2018, 11:03 AM | #26 | |||
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05-10-2018, 11:04 AM | #27 | |||
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this is gross, poor children who had this vile woman as their teacher
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05-10-2018, 11:05 AM | #28 | |||
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to be fair when I was 16 all I could think about was banging the hot teachers
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05-10-2018, 11:09 AM | #29 | |||
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This reminds me
I swear I saw a pedo music teacher from my school in home bargains yesterday |
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05-10-2018, 11:11 AM | #30 | |||
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Was he actually though?
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05-10-2018, 11:18 AM | #31 | |||
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05-10-2018, 11:27 AM | #32 | |||
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bound to be a PE teacher
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05-10-2018, 11:27 AM | #33 | |||
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05-10-2018, 11:48 AM | #34 | ||
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Tbh, the nature of the texts doesn't matter. It's not appropriate for a teacher to have such personal contact with a pupil. One of the more obvious reasons being protecting herself from such accusations as this. Calling the pupil a "friend" is overstepping the boundaries of a teacher/pupil relationship.
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05-10-2018, 11:51 AM | #35 | ||
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Most schools now, the teachers aren't even allowed to add the parents on Facebook/Twitter, never mind the kids. Which is fair enough, it can get in the way of the professional boundaries. |
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05-10-2018, 12:50 PM | #36 | |||
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What if the texts weren't discussing school nor soaps... what if he was saying, "I want to kill myself"? or "My father is abusing me and I'm afraid to speak to anyone officially". We don't know the context of any of this. I'm not saying this woman is innocent, I'm saying none of us can come to a conclusion on so little evidence. So I'll be interested to hear more about it and eventually know the verdict. |
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05-10-2018, 12:51 PM | #37 | |||
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05-10-2018, 01:02 PM | #38 | ||
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Thing is, such discussions about things like that would have had to have started in school and face-to-face before the exchange of numbers. No professional teacher's response to a child confiding in them about suicidal thoughts or abuse at home would be to give them their personal mobile number. There is no context for it to be appropriate for a teacher to give a child their personal contact information. Unless said characters are main characters in Waterloo Road that is. Last edited by Marsh.; 05-10-2018 at 01:04 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 01:12 PM | #39 | |||
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Or.... There may be no extenuating circumstances and she's a monster, preying on young boys. We don't know. That's all I'm saying. If we could reach a watertight conclusion by reading an edited article, I could have save myself about four or five years of study. That's all I'm saying, Marshy. |
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05-10-2018, 01:32 PM | #40 | ||
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There are no extenuating circumstances. Not one. There's a difference between not breaking his confidence, and giving him your personal contact information. Any sane person knows that. |
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05-10-2018, 01:35 PM | #41 | |||
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05-10-2018, 02:00 PM | #42 | |||
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This whole thread is people reaching a verdict before the trial is over and after reading one article. |
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05-10-2018, 02:19 PM | #43 | ||
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No it isn't. The trial is about the accused and an alleged sexual affair. I haven't presumed to know the facts on that nor what the verdict should or shouldn't be. What I have done, is given my opinion on the facts we do know. Mainly, there are no circumstances where it is appropriate for a teacher and a pupil to be exchanging 295 text messages and 23 phone calls. If anything, the fact she is now up in court provides one of the reasons those boundaries exist, to protect herself from accusations of misconduct. Last edited by Marsh.; 05-10-2018 at 02:19 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 02:22 PM | #44 | |||
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In the meantime people can crack on calling her evil etc. |
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05-10-2018, 02:25 PM | #45 | ||
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I'm just pointing out even without the sexual offences, she did cross the line and at the very least should call her ability to do her job properly into question. |
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05-10-2018, 04:08 PM | #46 | |||
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What a teacher should not do is try to handle the situation themselves, especially over electronic messages outside of the school. ETA: and no, a pupil saying "my dad touches me, but don't tell anyone" does not mean the teacher can keep it secret. Any kind of abuse or threat to personal safety is to be reported immediately to the safeguarding officer. A teacher trying to sort out the issue themself or even discussing it with the pupil shows they don't know what they are doing, and risks escalating the situation. Last edited by Oliver_W; 05-10-2018 at 04:13 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 07:48 PM | #47 | |||
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05-10-2018, 07:51 PM | #48 | |||
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05-10-2018, 07:55 PM | #49 | |||
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Agreed... unless something unlikely comes to light. I do hate people baying for blood before they know all the facts, though. Not accusing you (or even Marshy) of that, for clarity.
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05-10-2018, 08:23 PM | #50 | ||
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Getting arrested is one thing going to count mean the cps must have evidences if not then it would of been chuck out
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