[Robodog]

This a strange moment in their otherwise strong relationship.
I can see both sides:

From Lewis's side:

He keeps getting nommed and wants support.
Cameron (his best mate) just evicted Isabella (one of Lewis's supporters)
Cameron kept in Akeem (who is anti-Lewis).
Cameron's decisions have therefore weakened Lewis's support base in there.

Not only that but, at the exact same time:
Cameron's friendship with Akeem suddenly increases while his friendship with Lewis has decreased.


From Cameron's side:

He had a hard choice to make between Akeem and Isabella.
Logically, and being fair, - he chose the newcomer over the HM who had been there since day one.
His personal relationship with Akeem is probably far better than he is with Isabella.

Cameron is also a free man, and does not have to base his decisions around Lewis' feelings.


I get both sides and i like them both;

I think Cameron probably could have handled it better and could be more sympathetic to Lewis. He should see why and how Lewis feels bad about it.

Lewis could also be more philosophical about it and shrug it off. If he doesn't, he risks blowing it for himself both in the house, and with the public.

[Vanessa]

I get the feeling that Cameron doesn't want to be friends with him anymore.

[Liam-]

Yeah I see both sides as well, I think it’s a case of miscommunication between the two of them tbh, nothing that can’t be sorted out if they just sit and talk about it and see each others sides

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yeah I see both sides as well, I think it’s a case of miscommunication between the two of them tbh, nothing that can’t be sorted out if they just sit and talk about it and see each others sides

I hope they sort things out. But it's not looking good atm.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Robodog

This a strange moment in their otherwise strong relationship.
I can see both sides:

From Lewis's side:

He keeps getting nommed and wants support.
Cameron (his best mate) just evicted Isabella (one of Lewis's supporters)
Cameron kept in Akeem (who is anti-Lewis).
Cameron's decisions have therefore weakened Lewis's support base in there.

Not only that but, at the exact same time:
Cameron's friendship with Akeem suddenly increases while his friendship with Lewis

Good balanced post


From Cameron's side:

He had a hard choice to make between Akeem and Isabella.
Logically, and being fair, - he chose the newcomer over the HM who had been there since day one.
His personal relationship with Akeem is probably far better than he is with Isabella.

Cameron is also a free man, and does not have to base his decisions around Lewis' feelings.


I get both sides and i like them both;

I think Cameron probably could have handled it better and could be more sympathetic to Lewis. He should see why and how Lewis feels bad about it.

Lewis could also be more philosophical about it and shrug it off. If he doesn't, he risks blowing it for himself both in the house, and with the public.

Good balanced post, nice to see. Lewis has already blown it with the majority in the house and tbh I cannot see the public deserting him now as there is to much lolly on him and punters will want their rewards. Me I will spend mine on saving him...

[parmnion]

there should be no seeing it from camerons side...he does not need to defend his decision as it was the correct one.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

there should be no seeing it from camerons side...he does not need to defend his decision as it was the correct one.

No he doesn't..but Robodog raises some good points and I don't think Cameron is mature enough to understand how his decisions have affected Lewis.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No he doesn't..but Robodog raises some good points and I don't think Cameron is mature enough to understand how his decisions have affected Lewis.

The problem lies with Lewis not Cameron tho. Getting worked up over the stupid stuff that he has done shouldn’t be a burden to Cameron.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No he doesn't..but Robodog raises some good points and I don't think Cameron is mature enough to understand how his decisions have affected Lewis.

i think you should be saying lewis isnt mature enough to handle camerons decision.

[Patricia4]

Cameron know's what he's doing he's going around everyone in the house now even those he never liked this is the game he want's to play to win nothing to do with his age.
What happened to Lewis the brother he never had what a load of bull.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No he doesn't..but Robodog raises some good points and I don't think Cameron is mature enough to understand how his decisions have affected Lewis.

Why does EVERYTHING boil down to how things effect Lewis in the house, are we forgetting Lewis is almost 10 years older than the teenager Cameron, Jesus!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Robodog

This a strange moment in their otherwise strong relationship.
I can see both sides:

From Lewis's side:

He keeps getting nommed and wants support.
Cameron (his best mate) just evicted Isabella (one of Lewis's supporters)
Cameron kept in Akeem (who is anti-Lewis).
Cameron's decisions have therefore weakened Lewis's support base in there.

Not only that but, at the exact same time:
Cameron's friendship with Akeem suddenly increases while his friendship with Lewis has decreased.


From Cameron's side:

He had a hard choice to make between Akeem and Isabella.
Logically, and being fair, - he chose the newcomer over the HM who had been there since day one.
His personal relationship with Akeem is probably far better than he is with Isabella.

Cameron is also a free man, and does not have to base his decisions around Lewis' feelings.


I get both sides and i like them both;

I think Cameron probably could have handled it better and could be more sympathetic to Lewis. He should see why and how Lewis feels bad about it.

Lewis could also be more philosophical about it and shrug it off. If he doesn't, he risks blowing it for himself both in the house, and with the public.

This is an excellent balanced post.

I like them both.
I love the friendship they have which I believe is and will stay intact.
Even when out if the house.

All relationships hit sticky patches.


Really though, admirable and excellent post.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Swan

Why does EVERY boil down to how things effect Lewis in the house, are we forgetting Lewis is almost 10 years older than the teenager Cameron, Jesus!

Lmao yeah apparently everyone has the responsibility to cater to Lewis’s whim. Radical thought but maybe he should do everyone a favour and stop being a ****

[Niamh.]

Cameron had to actually evict someone, send someone home, end their dream and Lewis makes out like he's the victim, it's no wonder Cameron doesn't feel like being around him so much, selfish prick

[Niamh.]

And to add to that he wasn't even upset that his "friend" had just been sent home, he was only upset that he had lost an ally in the house

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Cameron had to actually evict someone, send someone home, end their dream and Lewis makes out like he's the victim, it's no wonder Cameron doesn't feel like being around him so much, selfish prick

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And to add to that he wasn't even upset that his "friend" had just been sent home, he was only upset that he had lost an ally in the house

Not even an opinion, all FACT^

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

i think you should be saying lewis isnt mature enough to handle camerons decision.

I didn't say handle the decision..I said Cameron isn't mature enough to understand how Lewis is feeling.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Swan

Why does EVERYTHING boil down to how things effect Lewis in the house, are we forgetting Lewis is almost 10 years older than the teenager Cameron, Jesus!

Im having a debate...we are discussing Cameron and Lewis...just calm down.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I didn't say handle the decision..I said Cameron isn't mature enough to understand how Lewis is feeling.

I know what you said, but think you are wrong, which is why i worded it the way i did.

cameron has shown time and time again he is far more mature than lewis, he will also know fine well that his decision had no impact whatsoever on lewis and thatb lewis is just using it as another poor excuse to act up for the cameras.

Only now he has started to use his only house ally cameron for his own means, which when coupled with the fact of lewis not telling cameron that cian was saying to everyone that he fancied him knowing fine well how it could effect cameron just shows me that if he does really care about cameron then he is far to full of himself and far to immature to realise just how much his actions could effect cameron once he finds out about lewiss bull****.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Im having a debate...we are discussing Cameron and Lewis...just calm down.

Clever, trying to discredit me as being irate or something. Im calm, thanks. However, you didn't actually address what i said in my post at all.

[Pro Sniper]

All that's happened here is Cam has realised that his douchebag pretendee besty has been riding his coattails for weeks..using him to "look good" and aiming to use that to finish in front of him.

The douchebag obviously wants to keep the relationship as it is..which is to have his "pupil" under his thumb. Needs Cam to remain heavily reliant on him pulling him through his mountain of troubles.. so he can keep shining as this "wise old teacher" that only exists in his own ****ed up narcissistic head.

PATHETIC.