[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Perhaps if someone had put their hands on him when he was younger... his parents perhaps... he wouldn't be such an arsehole now. "I'm only 15" means I can say pretty much anything I like to you and you have to let me.

Yes his Parents
need to sort his attitude out.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by arista

I do not need one
I am at a higher level

ok

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

What's that got to do with this thread

It’s real life and a example of the prison system not working.

People know how to use the system, I’m only 15 so the adult is responsible.

15 year olds are killing and raping.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The boy's sense of impunity and entitlement. The way he acted like an arsehole and then once he'd wound the bloke up like he's a man, fell back on the fact he is 15.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

Monkey see monkey do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Monkey see monkey do.

Pretty much

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Pretty much

But it can go the other way,

Kids traumatised or the grow up and be better to their own kids

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

But it can go the other way,

Kids traumatised or the grow up and be better to their own kids

Either scenario says hitting your kids as punishment is the lazy option. Not hitting your kids as a discipline method doesn't mean you let your kids do whatever they want, there are better, non violent options

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

I do not need one
I am at a higher level

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

what research is this?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

Well that's what they say. And whether or not this kid was hit as a child one thing's for sure... his parents won't take responsibility and lots of people will make excuses for him and his bad behaviour. Thing is, if he carries on he'll end up being properly beaten by someone bigger and nastier, and once he's turned 18 no one will care whether he had a hard childhood or not.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what research is this?

Research that doesn't know or show the difference between beating and chastising. Smacking a child and beating the sh1t out of it.

I truly regret saying anything because it's turned this kid into some kind of bleeding heart case. No one knows what his childhood was like. Maybe if he'd had more discipline (is that more acceptable?) then he wouldn't be such an arsehole.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Research that doesn't know or show the difference between beating and chastising. Smacking a child and beating the sh1t out of it.

I truly regret saying anything because it's turned this kid into some kind of bleeding heart case. No one knows what his childhood was like. Maybe if he'd had more discipline (is that more acceptable?) they he wouldn't be such an arsehole.

Chastising can be done without actually becoming psychical.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Chastising can be done without actually becoming psychical.

Like I said, I regret saying what I said because it's changed the whole tone of the discussion and made this awful kid into some kind of victim.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I said, I regret saying what I said because it's changed the whole tone of the discussion and made this awful kid into some kind of victim.

Most of the time on here it’s who is saying something not what they are saying.

Lt gets jumped on more times than a free bouncy castle.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I was smacked as a child and im ok

so

I think I need to continue with you. Lol

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Perhaps if someone had put their hands on him when he was younger... his parents perhaps... he wouldn't be such an arsehole now. "I'm only 15" means I can say pretty much anything I like to you and you have to let me.

That's the way I see it too, well aware of how far he can push things with no consequences

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Most of the time on here it’s who is saying something not what they are saying.

Lt gets jumped on more times than a free bouncy castle.

Are you accusing me of not having that opinion consistently? because I do....and I like Livia and LT so there goes that theory

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you accusing me of not having that opinion consistently? because I do....and I like Livia and LT so there goes that theory

I never mentioned your name Niamh so stop jumping to conclusions.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I never mentioned your name Niamh so stop jumping to conclusions.

It was a pretty easy conclusion to jump to considering I was the only one speaking to Livia on the opposite side, who were you talking about then because there literally was no one else involved?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Most of the time on here it’s who is saying something not what they are saying.

Lt gets jumped on more times than a free bouncy castle.

amem sister

[Cherie]

or is he saying I am only 15 to travel for free

if there were more discipline and respect maybe the young mainly men who have ended up dead with a knife in their guts might still be alive, a small shove to put your in your place v a knife in the gut....you choose