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09-11-2018, 10:09 PM | #176 | |||
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My point is not meant to detract from your point, parm. You ask a very pertinent question and I think that's a question many new parents ask themselves. These practices were in our culture because there didn't used to be this sort of nanny culture. Well, we went through a period of nanny culture that was quite bad actually, where neighbor's would turn their head despite the neighborhood problem child getting his *** beat by his father down the street for practically no reason. So yes, unchecked authority is bad. On the other hand, now, police are called, HOAs (Home Owner's Associations) record violations for the littest of things like leaving toddler toys out in the grass (God forbid kids be kids), and now society is nudging govt to that level as well... ...but why do you think the practice was introduced? I think people tend to think it is specifically for the purpose of facilitating authority, but I think my biggest take-away from having been spanked as a child was that the world does not revolve around me and my every thought. The bus driver tried to handle it "the old fashioned" way... in my old neighborhood, this was "the line" and we thought twice about crossing it. Calling the police was something that the local public nuisance/nanny state did. Consider that line a thinking a little bit. It was thought a lesser person not only wants, but demands, third parties to come in and resolve their differences. Before the era of internet and cell phones, the third party was about as far away as it took you to run home (if you could get away) to call for help on your landline or to a family member. So differences had to be resolved often without third party input. The worst alternative is that we are found in an alleyway with the wrong person (who we misspoke to)... or... that kid is found later hanging out with the wrong crowd bullying/targetting overs... humans by nature have little bullies instilled in them, and while spanking is certainly not a benign action, it helped facilitate a lesson in the concept of personal power and there being forces beyond our limitations.... that also taught that life itself was also not benign, in fact, there were often difficult aspects and malignant aspects of human-nature that do not consider our well-being or have our best interest... a child today has more options at their disposal (call fam for help or record any wrong-doing for evidence later), but a child of those days didn't have a family or protective structure following them everywhere they went... Now that things have changed with technology and nanny-style "community policing", those lessons are a little bit more complicated than they used to be. Yes, we shouldn't subject ourselves to a problematic situation or purposefully push someone's buttons who may do harm to us... but on the other hand, if that person is able to get it on camera, they may have a juicy lawsuit on their hands. Even better if those recorded are well-known in any way shape or form, then they can sell that footage/imagery to TMZ/CNN and reap interview $$$$$. Very complicated now There are incentives to cause trouble where before that really could have damaged our reputation with our local folk and may have still resulted in immediate arrest anyway. Sometimes fines... something our prior generations maybe could not have afforded. Last edited by Maru; 10-11-2018 at 12:31 AM. Reason: you you you |
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09-11-2018, 10:10 PM | #177 | |||
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I'd never even heard of it until I first came to SD.
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09-11-2018, 10:31 PM | #178 | |||
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You never heard of FGM until you came on TIBB? Really?
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09-11-2018, 10:33 PM | #179 | ||
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"Ooh, kids would be so much better behaved these days with a little domestic violence"
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09-11-2018, 10:34 PM | #180 | |||
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09-11-2018, 10:34 PM | #181 | ||
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It's as ridiculous a comment as "white people believe...". Last edited by Marsh.; 09-11-2018 at 10:34 PM. |
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09-11-2018, 11:15 PM | #182 | |||
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It's a something that's topical as a human rights issue/women's rights issue. Not so much in the news but it's certainly something people know about, I'm surprised it's not something Americans know about
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10-11-2018, 12:22 AM | #183 | |||
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That's part of what attracted me to SD topics, actually, is that conversations here are not so filtered. Americans can be so sheltered here because most media for as long as I've been alive anyway has been delivered through such a thick filter. Besides, it has the word "genital" in it and I couldn't see Anderson Cooper & co using those words so carelessly With the topic of gender identity though, etc, we see more usage of those kinds of terms, but it's understandable in a medical context. I don't think genital mutilation is something people want to hear when they turn on the television during prime-time. Right-wing media is more likely to bring it up given the human-rights related abuses, but then they will almost immediately be squashed by the opposition as racism/ethnocentrism... since obviously to delve into such topics, we'd have to then climb into discussions of WHO practices it... and that's deeper than most media wants to go now-a-days. We already know too the more vulgar folk who will usurp that conversation. The Ann Coulters of political discourse, etc... and that's enough to bleach it from the national/mainstream rhetoric here... US media in general is still very uptight and censorship heavy imo... Last edited by Maru; 10-11-2018 at 12:24 AM. |
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10-11-2018, 07:07 AM | #184 | |||
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I think that proves that black people support it. Last edited by parmnion; 10-11-2018 at 07:09 AM. |
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10-11-2018, 07:30 AM | #185 | |||
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10-11-2018, 07:48 AM | #186 | |||
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i wish they would stop MGM too and one of the worst culprits apart from Jews is USA
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10-11-2018, 10:28 AM | #187 | |||
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Yeah, I agree although it's not as damaging as FGM. Tbf though in the USA it seems to be a standard practice for all baby boys not just Jewish boys
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10-11-2018, 01:12 PM | #188 | |||
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Yes, male circumcision must be JUST the same... or it wouldn't get brought up, by a man, ever time FGM gets brought up. Last edited by Livia; 10-11-2018 at 01:13 PM. |
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10-11-2018, 01:16 PM | #189 | |||
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10-11-2018, 01:20 PM | #190 | |||
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Please don't try to make the issues sound the same when women suffer so much more otherwise you're just minimising their struggle and taking part in insufferable whataboutism. I know you don't agree with male circumcision, you say so all the time. That's your right, start a campaign if you feel so strongly, just please don't slip it into the discussion every time FGM comes up.
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10-11-2018, 02:39 PM | #191 | |||
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10-11-2018, 03:05 PM | #192 | ||
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We are a long way off the original thread.
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10-11-2018, 03:18 PM | #193 | |||
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10-11-2018, 04:39 PM | #194 | |||
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10-11-2018, 06:02 PM | #195 | |||
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Idc, this is good discussion. But mods could always split into a new thread.
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10-11-2018, 06:46 PM | #196 | |||
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I would not compare that to a circumsion. Religious folk want to reproduce. Can't do that when your junk feels like it is on fire all the time. To bring this back OT. Another form of arraignment against the kid in the OP maybe?... "Well somebody wasn't circumsized when they were younger" ... |
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10-11-2018, 06:57 PM | #197 | ||
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The rate of infant circumcision in the US has been falling over time. The rate of mass shootings has been increasing over time. So it stands to reason that if EVERYONE was circumcised, there would be no mass shootings at all! Damn you, foreskin. Damn ALL the foreskins! |
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10-11-2018, 07:01 PM | #198 | |||
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10-11-2018, 07:38 PM | #199 | |||
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Maybe that is the secret to his name... Last edited by Maru; 10-11-2018 at 07:39 PM. |
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11-11-2018, 09:19 AM | #200 | ||
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