[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I do have a bit of a morbid curiosity to see how it would all work out if you did vote out. I see people say Oh you couldn't survive without England etc but I don't see why that would be true, you're a similar size and population to us after all

Were you guys bailed out by the UK not so long ago

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no

if all the debates were to be analysed uncontrolled immigration seemed to be deservedly the biggest issue

the irony of that though is that more immigration comes from outside the EU and that is 'controlled'

[LeatherTrumpet]

oop

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

the irony of that though is that more immigration comes from outside the EU and that is 'controlled'

exactly

soon after the ref some leave politicians started admitting that brexit doesn't mean less immigration
pity all those buggers who voted leave thinking all "forreners" will **** off or stop coming
get ready for me indians and chinese tho

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

exactly

soon after the ref some leave politicians started admitting that brexit doesn't mean less immigration
pity all those buggers who voted leave thinking all "forreners" will **** off or stop coming
get ready for me indians and chinese tho

and the even bigger irony is that people say we are afraid of brown people,when most of the EU immigrants are white

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Were you guys bailed out by the UK not so long ago

"You guys" tut tut

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

"You guys" tut tut

Not tut tut, I pay my taxes here and I don't live in Ireland and haven't done for 20 years

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not tut tut, I pay my taxes here and I don't live in Ireland and haven't done for 20 years

Welcome to the motherland.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not tut tut, I pay my taxes here and I don't live in Ireland and haven't done for 20 years

Awite Darlin'

[michael21]

May just making it up as she gose she dont want mp to vote and she dont want the public to vote

It about Time the queen step in to sort this mess out

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by michael21

c to vote

It about Time the queen step in to sort this mess out

Michael... even if the royals DID still have any real non-symbolic power... The Queen herself is quite blatantly not quite all there any more .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Awite Darlin'

The UK has done more for me than Ireland ever did, all the Irish government in the main is export its citizens

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Welcome to the motherland.

I quite like it

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The UK has done more for me than Ireland ever did, all the Irish government in the main is export its citizens

I think you may have Stockholm Syndrome, Cherie

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think you may have Stockholm Syndrome, Cherie

It's the truth, unless you can tell me otherwise Alot of Irish people think immigrants are sitting under their their Irish flags, singing songs about British tyranny and waiting for the day we can return in box

[Vanessa]

Yes, i think a second referendum is likely.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's the truth, unless you can tell me otherwise Alot of Irish people think immigrants are sitting under their their Irish flags, singing songs about British tyranny and waiting for the day we can return in box

I can't "tell" you anything but I would suggest that it's yourself / your loved ones / others who have actively influenced your life who have done things for you... and that in general it's a mistake to feel that a country you live in has "done things for you" and that you therefore "owe" that country gratitude / allegiance. At the end of the day, from the perspective of "the country", you're just a cog in their machine and it's in their best interests to keep you oiled. "The country" doesn't really care about you, and that's always worth keeping in mind.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can't "tell" you anything but I would suggest that it's yourself / your loved ones / others who have actively influenced your life who have done things for you... and that in general it's a mistake to feel that a country you live in has "done things for you" and that you therefore "owe" that country gratitude / allegiance. At the end of the day, from the perspective of "the country", you're just a cog in their machine and it's in their best interests to keep you oiled. "The country" doesn't really care about you, and that's always worth keeping in mind.

So as a starting point without a job and income it is impossible to move forward so in that respect this country has done more for me than if I had stayed put I never said the country cared about me any more than Ireland cares about me, but it has given me and my family a much better opportunity than we ever had in Ireland, of course it is up to me what I made of that opportunity but if it wasn't there is the first place....a chicken and egg scenario if you please.

I would say holding up Ireland as an example of how Scotland could survive on its own is pretty flawed given how many people it continues to export around the world

[The Slim Reaper]

My heart goes out to Cherie; after leaving the bomb making colony savages behind to build a new life as an asylum seeker, she's now as popular as the prime minister in this thread.

Stay strong Cherie.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

My heart goes out to Cherie; after leaving the bomb making colony savages behind to build a new life as an asylum seeker, she's now as popular as the prime minister in this thread.

Stay strong Cherie.

I doff my hat every time the Queen comes on telly

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's the truth, unless you can tell me otherwise Alot of Irish people think immigrants are sitting under their their Irish flags, singing songs about British tyranny and waiting for the day we can return in box

I doubt that very much Cherie, you're just being insulting now

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So as a starting point without a job and income it is impossible to move forward so in that respect this country has done more for me than if I had stayed put I never said the country cared about me any more than Ireland cares about me, but it has given me and my family a much better opportunity than we ever had in Ireland, of course it is up to me what I made of that opportunity but if it wasn't there is the first place....a chicken and egg scenario if you please.

I would say holding up Ireland as an example of how Scotland could survive on its own is pretty flawed given how many people it continues to export around the world

People don't get "exported" these days Cherie, there's plenty of work here, has been for a longtime. I should know, I actually live here

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So as a starting point without a job and income it is impossible to move forward so in that respect this country has done more for me than if I had stayed put I never said the country cared about me any more than Ireland cares about me, but it has given me and my family a much better opportunity than we ever had in Ireland, of course it is up to me what I made of that opportunity but if it wasn't there is the first place....a chicken and egg scenario if you please.

I would say holding up Ireland as an example of how Scotland could survive on its own is pretty flawed given how many people it continues to export around the world

People are doing just fine over here, tyvm, jesus, how long has it actually been since you were in Ireland, how ****ing rude

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People are doing just fine over here, tyvm, jesus, how long has it actually been since you were in Ireland, how ****ing rude

yep, Republic of Ireland over Northern Ireland any time for me as my favourite Ireland honestly

[Ramsay]

Cherie you no good West Brit, get out of my sight.