[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Are trans people in such numbers that they require their own ward?

We wouldn't want more wasted space when there's a fight for beds as it is.

Once we leave the EU, we'll have an extra few Bob to spend instead of paying for the 4 course dinners of Juncker and his mob. I'm sure we can manage a small room and a few beds.

[SherzyK]

Wtf how did this become a conversation about Muslim women!? Literally zero comparison to the topic.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Wtf how did this become a conversation about Muslim women!? Literally zero comparison to the topic.

I know, I'm baffled.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Wtf how did this become a conversation about Muslim women!? Literally zero comparison to the topic.

Muslim cats are people too.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Muslim cats are people too.

Honestly the lengths that people would reach to try and validate a point is disgusting. If you have nothing else to argue then please don’t start throwing random comments to prove a point. You can slit my throat for saying this in a debates thread, but just accept defeat if you’re proven wrong.

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I know, I'm baffled.

Its literally a joke at this point. These serious debates aren’t even serious

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Honestly the lengths that people would reach to try and validate a point is disgusting. If you have nothing else to argue then please don’t start throwing random comments to prove a point. You can slit my throat for saying this in a debates thread, but just accept defeat if you’re proven wrong.







Its literally a joke at this point. These serious debates aren’t even serious

Well, they've on gone quiet but I assume they are just trying to think of another way to twist the situation rather than accepting they're wrong.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Once we leave the EU, we'll have an extra few Bob to spend instead of paying for the 4 course dinners of Juncker and his mob. I'm sure we can manage a small room and a few beds.

Theresa May might move into more expensive accomodation with the extra cash?

[Northern Monkey]

The way to clear this up is simple....



Instead of having signs that say “Men” and “Women” just have a picture of a penis and balls on one and a vagina on the other.That way all you have to do is look in your pants and see which one best matches you.Then everybody knows where to go.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The way to clear this up is simple....



Instead of having signs that say “Men” and “Women” just have a picture of a penis and balls on one and a vagina on the other.That way all you have to do is look in your pants and see which one best matches you.Then everybody knows where to go.

The discussion is about transgender patients who haven't had reassignment surgery.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Wtf how did this become a conversation about Muslim women!? Literally zero comparison to the topic.

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I know, I'm baffled.

Wow does it need spelling out for you guys or are you really that ill informed maybe you don’t know any muslim women so I suggest reading up

I find it very worrying that people are quite happy to give up their rights in this way, it doesnt really matter whether YOU mind if you share a hospital ward, I particularly don’t care but I know plenty that would

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The discussion is about transgender patients who haven't had reassignment surgery.

Well i agree with the first reply in the thread by Bots.

Medical treatment has to be determined by biological sex not gender.

You wouldn’t put a male with for example prostate issues on a female ward as it wouldn’t cater to their needs as well.

Males and females have different requirements

People are split up by sex for a few reasons.

There are certain areas in life where reality has to be recognised over feelings.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Well, they've on gone quiet but I assume they are just trying to think of another way to twist the situation rather than accepting they're wrong.

Who are they? there is only one of me

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

What would they need accommodation for?

Oh dear

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Wow does it need spelling out for you guys or are you really that ill informed maybe you don’t know any muslim women so I suggest reading up

I find it very worrying that people are quite happy to give up their rights in this way, it doesnt really matter whether YOU mind if you share a hospital ward, I particulrly don’t care but I know plenty that would

Yes and the main concern for caring about it seems to be the potential for some kind of sexual abuse/harassment.

.... in a place men have free access to.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Honestly the lengths that people would reach to try and validate a point is disgusting. If you have nothing else to argue then please don’t start throwing random comments to prove a point. You can slit my throat for saying this in a debates thread, but just accept defeat if you’re proven wrong.



Its literally a joke at this point. These serious debates aren’t even serious

Proven wrong about what? Having an opinion that is not the same as yours, not willing to have another womans right supersede mine...hows that tea for you?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i agree with the first reply in the thread by Bots.

Medical treatment has to be determined by biological sex not gender.

You wouldn’t put a male with for example prostate issues on a female ward as it wouldn’t cater to their needs as well.

Males and females have different requirements

People are split up by sex for a few reasons.

There are certain areas in life where reality has to be recognised over feelings.

Separation on gender not sex.

And, yes, I agree too that patients shouldn't be mixed and matched. But grouped dependant on their needs.

Some of those needs will lead to female only wards such as labour wards. Some won't.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes and the main concern for caring about it seems to be the potential for some kind of sexual abuse/harassment.

.... in a place men have free access to.

That wasn’t my main concern

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That wasn’t my main concern

So what is your main concern?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So what is your main concern?

Read the thread I am not repeating myself

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Read the thread I am not repeating myself

You wouldn't be.

You've stated that you're against it, and apart from a reference to Muslims and other cultures who would be against it, haven't explained why.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You wouldn't be.

You've stated that you're against it, and apart from a reference to Muslims and other cultures who would be against it, haven't explained why.

Yes I have read the thread

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Proven wrong about what? Having an opinion that is not the same as yours, not willing to have another womans right supersede mine...hows that tea for you?

You’re bringing up topics that have nothing to do with the debate at hand. You have every right to feel like that but argue something that’s relevant to what you’re talking about. And actually, I know plenty of Muslim people so don’t tell me who I know and don’t know. Ok?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Those kinds of people would have all kinds of issues with the set up of a Western hospital regardless of any possible gender divide.

Does it require an entire restructure of our hospitals? Not really.

Those kinds of people as you refer to them make up 70 per cent if the area that I live in Our hospitals are set up as are male and female in the main with the occasional mixed ward so no restructuring required

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

You’re bringing up topics that have nothing to do with the debate at hand. You have every right to feel like that but argue something that’s relevant to what you’re talking about. And actually, I know plenty of Muslim people so don’t tell me who I know and don’t know. Ok?

Well you appeared not to know any, how was I supposed to know..ok?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I have read the thread

You haven't. You've made some wild claims about cats, Muslims and abuse.