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Old 14-01-2019, 04:15 PM #101
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I do not troll anyone, I may enjoy winding up a few precious people who perhaps take themselves a little too seriously but that is not trolling. There are no regular trolls on this site (Nicky tries and fails some times) but there are plenty who like to accuse others of such a thing to cast themselves in a better light - Two Sugars comes to mind.


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And I'm sure the consensus of that thread would be that both sides are just as bad as each other? I've seen some extremely below-the-belt comments from all sides.
The point is that the so called 'tolerants' aren't particularly tolerant at all
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How is it baiting, lol, it was put up for discussion, if people are secure in their mindfulness they shouldn't have a problem

My problem with it is that it is a bog standard list of things that most people should be doing without having to told to do it, the other one I would add to is to do some type of work either paid or voluntary because routine is great for the mind
Well, I saw it that way because essentially the OP was just telling everyone that we should all take a negative attitude towards life not do anything that would make someone feel good about themselves, which I saw as being intended to wind people up and give a reaction and it looks like the OP has succeeded
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The point is that the so called 'tolerants' aren't particularly tolerant at all
what increases the irony is that they think they are and that others do too


when this is exposed it can lead to anger and indignation...

which isnt very nice at all
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Well, I saw it that way because essentially the OP was just telling everyone that we should all take a negative attitude towards life not do anything that would make someone feel good about themselves, which I saw as being intended to wind people up and give a reaction and it looks like the OP has succeeded
I don't like being told not to take my dog for a walk!
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what increases the irony is that they think they are and that others do too


when this is exposed it can lead to anger and indignation...

which isnt very nice at all
the irony of you saying all of this
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the irony of you saying all of this
You did that one Nicky, you got a laugh, move on
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I don't like being told not to take my dog for a walk!
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just saying it used to be something that people were infracted for, I will test it out

are you trolling me now Marsh?
Asking you a question is trolling?

Grow up.
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well I take it you are lying then as you have provided no proof, do I need to be their spokesperson to bring something up that I am witnessing on the forum ? I didn't realise, I will remind you of that in the future, don't you worry
So you can bring something up you have witnessed but I can't do the same without giving you proof?

By your own logic you are lying yourself.

Ok.
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I do not troll anyone, I may enjoy winding up a few precious people who perhaps take themselves a little too seriously but that is not trolling. There are no regular trolls on this site (Nicky tries and fails some times) but there are plenty who like to accuse others of such a thing to cast themselves in a better light - Two Sugars comes to mind.
"I'm not a troll"

"I may enjoy winding up a few precious people"



It is trolling and you know it is. I don't really care either way as the forum can be hilarious but let's call a spade a spade.

Maybe you're not "a troll" but you certainly enjoy trolling. You ADMITTED IT.
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How is it baiting, lol, it was put up for discussion, if people are secure in their mindfulness they shouldn't have a problem

My problem with it is that it is a bog standard list of things that most people should be doing without having to told to do it, the other one I would add to is to do some type of work either paid or voluntary because routine is great for the mind
Yeah it's almost like thinking positively is easy you know it's not like human thought processes, behavioural patterns and general mental wellbeing is anything other than easy breezy for absolutely everyone.

Therapists will be out of a job soon. Depressed? Cheer up! It's easy!
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"I may enjoy winding up a few precious people"



It is trolling and you know it is. I don't really care either way as the forum can be hilarious but let's call a spade a spade.

Maybe you're not "a troll" but you certainly enjoy trolling. You ADMITTED IT.
Trolling is legal, and anyone who uses oppressive actions to stop people trolling are the ones in the wrong.
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"I may enjoy winding up a few precious people"



It is trolling and you know it is. I don't really care either way as the forum can be hilarious but let's call a spade a spade.

Maybe you're not "a troll" but you certainly enjoy trolling. You ADMITTED IT.


here it is, the post of the thread
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So you can bring something up you have witnessed but I can't do the same without giving you proof?

By your own logic you are lying yourself.

Ok.

Two different things, there is proof of what I am claiming on this thread, what you have claimed could be in your own head?
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Yeah it's almost like thinking positively is easy you know it's not like human thought processes, behavioural patterns and general mental wellbeing is anything other than easy breezy for absolutely everyone.

Therapists will be out of a job soon. Depressed? Cheer up! It's easy!
Is there anything on that list that has come as a shock to you...have a bath..? I mean really? if only it were that simple
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Two different things, there is proof of what I am claiming on this thread, what you have claimed could be in your own head?
Alf and LT haven't denied it. In fact they've responded to my posts in agreement.

"Could" ha, loving all these hypotheticals today but let's stick with things that happened.
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Is there anything on that list that has come as a shock to you...have a bath..? I mean really? if only it were that simple
"That list" No. I'm not the one pretending mindfulness is simple. You're quoting the wrong person.

Like summing up a cooking book as a list of foods and saying "I mean really?".

Who said things have to be shocking or mindblowing? When suffering mental illness the mind doesn't tend to operate rationally.
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Alf and LT haven't denied it. In fact they've responded to my posts in agreement.

"Could" ha, loving all these hypotheticals today but let's stick with things that happened.
The haven't confirmed it either
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The haven't confirmed it either
Oh dear. What you going to do? Conduct a survey? Get them to sign statements?

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tbh, as Marsh said earlier, the concept of mindfulness has at times been hijacked by some crap merchants

the way my therapist explained it is about being mindful of what we do and why and hopefully making changes starting with micro-behaviours
it's about reflecting on what we feel and think in the moment and drilling down to find out why we think/feel this way

the stuff in the op picture is more about wellness than mindfulness so I'm not quite sure LT is attacking the right thing
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Exactly. Anyone can break anything down to buzzwords to ridicule something. Doesn't make it valid.
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