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Old 12-01-2019, 02:45 PM #1
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Blocking Brexit could lead to a surge in far-right extremism in the UK, a cabinet minister has said.

Transport Secretary Chris Grayling told the Daily Mail that not leaving the EU would cause the 17 million people who voted for Brexit to feel "cheated".

This could end centuries of "moderate" politics in the UK, he said, as he urged his colleagues to back Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal.

A vote on the agreement takes place in the Commons on Tuesday.

MPs are widely expected to reject the deal, negotiated between the EU and UK, with more than 100 Conservative MPs among those opposing it.

Some ministers have warned the UK faces Brexit "paralysis" if this happens.

'Nastiness in politics'
Just days before the critical vote, Mr Grayling, who campaigned to leave the EU, told the Daily Mail there would be a "different tone" in British politics if the UK failed to leave the EU, and predicted a "less tolerant society" and a "more nationalistic nation".

"It will open the door to extremist populist political forces in this country of the kind we see in other countries in Europe," Mr Grayling told the paper.

"If MPs who represent seats that voted 70% to leave say 'sorry guys, we're still going to have freedom of movement', they will turn against the political mainstream," he added.

"There's already a nastiness and unpleasantness in our politics, more people with extreme views, more people willing to behave in an uncivilised way," he said.

Lord Hattersley, a former deputy Labour Party leader, dismissed Mr Grayling's comments, saying not many would regard him as "an expert in these matters".

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that he did not believe a general election - which Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has pushed for - would happen.

Lord Hattersley, a minister in the Wilson and Callaghan governments, called for another referendum, saying the party had to risk losing the support of Labour supporters who voted to leave the EU in order to do the "right" thing.Mr Grayling's intervention comes after his Conservative colleagues warned about the possibility of the UK leaving the EU with no deal.

Northern Ireland Secretary Karen Bradley said a no-deal exit would create a "feeling of unrest".

Tory rebel Dominic Grieve, who tabled the amendment that led to a second government defeat on Brexit last week, urged the prime minister to delay Brexit if her EU deal was rejected by MPs.

Mr Grieve is among a group of MPs calling for another referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46847169
I think it's inevitable, right wing terrorism is on the rise and I don't think extreme elements will be happy no matter what happens. If Brexit gets overturned in another referendum, the extreme right will spill blood.

Still, we can't let violence dictate the course. If people aren't happy with the deal and don't want a no deal solution than the only choice is another referendum.

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No surprise, the far right are more of a threat to the UK now than any other perceived terrorism
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bwahahaha

so Chris Grayling said it and its fact


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And remember those mobs who protested Trump coming to the UK = not extreme

Those who confronted JRM and his children at his home = not extreme

Those protesters stopping Anne Marie Waters from attending the hustings = not extreme

People trying to overturn the result of the referendum getting protested = extreme
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No surprise, the far right are more of a threat to the UK now than any other perceived terrorism
They'll be blowing up innocent children at pop concerts next, won't they?
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One MP's view.

It will not be blocked
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Probably. The furthest of right wing people are so easily triggered that aboloshing a terrible idea will even set them off.
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Nothing will happen if the government do their jobs correctly. Only they have the power to cause any unrest.
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Nothing will happen if the government do their jobs correctly. Only they have the power to cause any unrest.
if we had fair politics yes, but these brexiteers mostly the conservatives are more interested in their own financial gain


a honest, fair brexit could work yep, with genuine desire from all sides for independence from the EU but that will never happen so this brexit was doomed to be a huge mess from the start
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When we leave with no deal, and the remainers kick off, it will not be extreme, if the result of the referendum is sabotaged, and the leavers kick off, then that will be extreme. But I'm not partizan, honestly!
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When we leave with no deal, and the remainers kick off, it will not be extreme, if the result of the referendum is sabotaged, and the leavers kick off, then that will be extreme. But I'm not partizan, honestly!
i'm sure now that a no deal brexit won't be as bad as some might think, but this is me more hoping for a peaceful and calm departure out of EU from you guys

it shouldn't need to be a reason for chaos in UK, after 29th March there should be some work done to make UK a better country
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When we leave with no deal, and the remainers kick off, it will not be extreme, if the result of the referendum is sabotaged, and the leavers kick off, then that will be extreme. But I'm not partizan, honestly!
Would depend entirely on how they “kick off”. Lets not kid ourselves, one group often opt for peaceful protests whilst the others tend to go down the riot route though lols.
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Would depend entirely on how they “kick off”. Lets not kid ourselves, one group often opt for peaceful protests whilst the others tend to go down the riot route though lols.
Do I have to post videos of violent left wing protests to prove you wrong? Or are you gonna admit that your not being truthful?
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When we leave with no deal, and the remainers kick off, it will not be extreme, if the result of the referendum is sabotaged, and the leavers kick off, then that will be extreme. But I'm not partizan, honestly!
Make no mistake....It's a no deal from us and your goverment So lets move on
We are prepaired ..Are you ??
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Do I have to post videos of violent left wing protests to prove you wrong? Or are you gonna admit that your not being truthful?
“Often opt”

“Tend to”

There are exceptions obvs. Its interesting that you missed those bits out when you read my posts. Almost like you’re getting defensive of these far right types
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Probably. The furthest of right wing people are so easily triggered that aboloshing a terrible idea will even set them off.
ideally if you had nailed the spelling of abolishing it would have worked much better
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I can only think that globalist European leaders and the controlled media are pushing for war. France is on the brink right now.
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Here for it tbh.
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I can only think that globalist European leaders and the controlled media are pushing for war. France is on the brink right now.
lol france is not on the brink of war..

how many french do you know??
As much as Steve Bannoon and Nigel Farage tour our European countries trying do Putins job....We are not going to take a Knee to putin
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Here for it tbh.
here for what may I ask?
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I can only think that globalist European leaders and the controlled media are pushing for war. France is on the brink right now.
are you really Alex Jones?
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lol france is not on the brink of war..

how many french do you know??
As much as Steve Bannoon and Nigel Farage tour our European countries trying do Putins job....We are not going to take a Knee to putin
If I show proof of civil unrest in France right now, will you show me proof that Putin is pulling all the strings?

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lol france is not on the brink of war..

how many french do you know??
As much as Steve Bannoon and Nigel Farage tour our European countries trying do Putins job....We are not going to take a Knee to putin
true

Russia's used to sponsoring disruptive movements in Europe and the world.
They used to finance communist parties and peace movement in the past.
Wonder, how many current anti-EU outfits and parties get help from Kremlin
Afaik, Aaron Banks still hasn't accounted for the multi-million loan to the leave campaign...?
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If I show proof of civil unrest in France right now, will you show me proof that Puton is pulling all the strings?
No denying their is civil unrest .Me personally have no problem with peacefull protest..The vast majority of French are more than vexed with those who rip up their streert s..

Putin doesnt need to show personally how he pulls strings ...But when he carries out a chemical attack in your land you folk find it hilllarios...and you want Europe to take you seriously
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Chris Grayling the Brexiteer said this did he

its as bad now as it was before the referendum with both sides trying to panic MPs into voting one way or the other
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