[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

"Reportedly". You chose a link which can't be viewed in the UK, where does the link for that text lead?

But the bruises and rope was there so the element of certainty is there no? I was considerate enough to screenshot just in case the link would break so some gratitude is in order thank you. I thought it would be more legitimate if the evidence was from Chicago, where it took place rather than the UK

Oliver you’re reaching now, anymore and you’d snap your arms

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

But the bruises and rope was there so the element of certainty is there no? I was considerate enough to screenshot just in case the link would break so some gratitude is in order thank you. I thought it would be more legitimate if the evidence was from Chicago, where it took place rather than the UK

Oliver you’re reaching now, anymore and you’d snap your arms

Like I said, it was a dark and icy night, he could have gotten those bruises slipping over.

I'm grateful for the screenshot, thanks for finding it <3 As I can't access the page, do you know where the link goes that's for the text "scratch him up [...] MAGA country", hon? It might help prove it


If he'd have just said some jerk shoved him over, I'd have no doubt. But he was recognised in passing at night time - he's not especially distinctive, a non-fan probably wouldn't clock him in passing if it was dark. Some just shoving him over would explain why the sandwich was unscathed as well. The MAGA and hockey masks were probably just exaggerations. Same with the bleach which had no visible evidence at all.

[SherzyK]

You are entitled to believe that but you know that this happened but obviously because of some underlying beliefs or whatever opinion you may have of Jussie as a black gay man, you are choosing to play devils advocate. Seriously, stop being so heartless and just show a bit of respect. He didn’t just slip and suddenly had a rope around his neck. Like Matthew said, you’re taking your sig way too seriously

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

This is not a TMZ report so that narrative is proven false

I didn't say the TMZ article was wrong, I said it didn't say what the now-discredited Mirror article claimed it did.

If the police are stating as fact that two men approached Mr. Smollett making racial remarks etc., are we to believe that there is not only video, but audio as well?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Heartlessness definitely isn’t the problem... there’s be a lot more of an outpouring of sympathy if it was a straight white man...

It's always about identity with you people, Identity over facts.

Show me an incident where a straight, white man made up a potentially false story about some racist black people beating him up, and I'll prove your prediction wrong

[parmnion]

The woman said the man was staring at another man standing outside another entrance to the building about 300 feet away.



Oh well in that case.....

[Toy Soldier]

Seriously though, I honestly do understand wanting to wait for the facts before throwing your weight behind something but... that's not what's going on here, and several people seem to be actively trying to come up with theories against the narrative. It's not just "we'll wait and see", is it, if you're actively making it clear that you think it didn't happen. I'm afraid I have to agree that the motivations of several people here seem a bit sinister. If you think there's room for doubt, fair enough say so and then wait for the story to actually unfold... don't say "we should wait for the facts" and then vomit out a load of theories about it being a lie .

[SherzyK]

It’s useless, any evidence or proof that this happened would be completely disregarded.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Seriously though, I honestly do understand wanting to wait for the facts before throwing your weight behind something but... that's not what's going on here, and several people seem to be actively trying to come up with theories against the narrative. It's not just "we'll wait and see", is it, if you're actively making it clear that you think it didn't happen. I'm afraid I have to agree that the motivations of several people here seem a bit sinister. If you think there's room for doubt, fair enough say so and then wait for the story to actually unfold... don't say "we should wait for the facts" and then vomit out a load of theories about it being a lie .

So the ones who you personally think make it clear it didn't happen are the ones who need lecturing from you, but the ones who definitely make it clear it did happen, are spared?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Another incorrect thread title

can the member please correct it as it is factually incorrect?

No video of attack and i am sourcing the BBC here "No arrests have been made, and police have not found surveillance video of the attack, though they found footage of Jussie walking home with the rope around his neck." bbc WEBSITE

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Seriously though, I honestly do understand wanting to wait for the facts before throwing your weight behind something but... that's not what's going on here, and several people seem to be actively trying to come up with theories against the narrative. It's not just "we'll wait and see", is it, if you're actively making it clear that you think it didn't happen. I'm afraid I have to agree that the motivations of several people here seem a bit sinister. If you think there's room for doubt, fair enough say so and then wait for the story to actually unfold... don't say "we should wait for the facts" and then vomit out a load of theories about it being a lie .

It's very telling.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Another incorrect thread title

can the member please correct it as it is factually incorrect?

No video of attack and i am sourcing the BBC here "No arrests have been made, and police have not found surveillance video of the attack, though they found footage of Jussie walking home with the rope around his neck." bbc WEBSITE

They don't care that the thread title is wrong, the truth is not important to them, in fact, truth and reality is an insult to them, it hurts their feelings.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's very telling.

What is very telling?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

They don't care that the thread title is wrong, the truth is not important to them, in fact, truth and reality is an insult to them, it hurts their feelings.

Self awareness is an important thing to possess, Alf.

You can't accuse anyone of denying the truth or reality when you've spent the entire thread denying what's in front of you in favour of conspiracy theories in your mind.

[bitontheslide]

members seem to expect some form of consistency from posters or that makes them invalid? Reality check, no-one needs to be consistent. Also, really, even if i don't agree with someones viewpoint, they are perfectly entitled to express an opinion without being personally attacked.

[AnnieK]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-black.html

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-black.html

Top comment from the article
"
I don't really believe his story"

865 up votes 106 down votes

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Top comment from the article
"
I don't really believe his story"

865 up votes 106 down votes

You say this as if a DM comments section is enlightened

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Top comment from the article
"
I don't really believe his story"

865 up votes 106 down votes

Oh but you do

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Top comment from the article
"
I don't really believe his story"

865 up votes 106 down votes

Ahhh, they must have access to the full police reports, medical reports and evidence found already then and have come to that conclusion after legal training or being a police office trained to get to the bottom of reported crimes. Silly me for not reading the comments and just posting an article

[SherzyK]

He must have beaten himself up surely!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Shaun

You say this as if a DM comments section is enlightened

tea

as if people in DM comments have common sense tbh

they can be vile disgusting twats themselves in most of the celebrity news articles


that's why i don't read the comments at all in there anymore

[Nicky91]

anyway on topic, as for the people who want to see video evidence of this attack

i myself can't look at attacks like these, could make me sick i think


reading it is already bad enough for me but people actually wanting to see a video of this

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

anyway on topic, as for the people who want to see video evidence of this attack

i myself can't look at attacks like these, could make me sick i think


reading it is already bad enough for me but people actually wanting to see a video of this

The video is most beneficial for Jussie Smollett, that way it will prove him to be telling the truth and it will also give the police a better idea who they're looking for. What you do and don't like is not important here.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Shaun

You say this as if a DM comments section is enlightened

I dont say that

you did