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Old 05-02-2019, 11:20 AM #26
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Yeah it's like ending someone's career because old tweets were dug up, jsut stupid. How many of the people who are chimping out do you think read beyond the headline or watched the clip?

Its not on USA live news yet
but he is 66 years old,
so he has had a long career
made some good movies

It may effect his new movie
which is out on Friday , I think.
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Its not on USA live news yet
but he is 66 years old,
so he has had a long career
made some good movies

It may effect his new movie
which is out on Friday , I think.
well if he gets some bad reviews from any black critics the old cosh could be out of the drawer quicker than you can say Ballymena

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Liam Neeson reveals shocking story of how he walked

the streets with a weapon looking for a 'black b*****d' to kill

after a loved one was raped




  • The actor, 66, recalled the incident during an interview to promote his new revenge thriller Cold Pursuit
  • Liam explained: 'There's something primal – God forbid you've ever had a member of your family hurt under criminal conditions'
  • After learned a loved one was raped, the actor said he walked around with a cosh for a week 'hoping some 'black b******d' would have a go at me about something... so I could kill him'
  • Liam plays Nels Coxman in Cold Pursuit, a snowplow operator intent on tracking down those he responsible for the death of his son







During an interview with the Independent to promote his new film Cold Pursuit,

the actor, 66, described how he walked the streets looking for a 'black b*****d' to kill

in a misguided attempt at revenge with a man who fitted the profile of her attacker.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-b-d-kill.html



id imagine his PR did not sanction that


Looks like its him who should be sanctioned ... first for having those thoughts and secondly for going public with his thoughts


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He'd have been better off trying to track down the actual rapist ?!?!


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If it was years ago and he doesn't feel that way anymore shouldn't he then be given a second chance? Afterall the media and the masses have forgiven rapists and woman beaters so why not someone who was once a racist and clearly in a dark place at the time?


Who was a rapist ?


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"He'd have been better off trying to track down the actual rapist ?!?!"


A job for Police
not him.
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Loose women are now talking about it Saira is going well mad about it
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Well he has technically been counted as innocent nowadays thanks to his very rich father-in-law imo, but he plays for Fleetwood Town.
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The man who raped his family member?
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Shaun
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Digging up Churchill ,
is not needed on this topic.

Be Fair

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Be Fair
He was defending Liam Neeson.
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Not a huge deal
what if Nigel Farage had said it?
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What a mess and a huge backlash! , Neeson's brutal honesty of regrets will probably make alot of people see him differently now .

When you see it in headlines it's shocking but we know he doesn't have those feelings now but we can't condone what he said , i'm in 2 minds about this . I think it's wrong and stupid what he said . But on the other hand he was talking about a traumatic thing that happened to someone he cared about . And from what i hear Neeson is very troubled from life experiences.

I don't understand the mentality though of wanting to hunt down anyone of that race just because the person who attacked your loved one is the same colour . i just don't know how i feel about that , it's really disturbed.

Its ridiculous to try and boycott his movies though as where do we stand on other Hollywood actors who have said or done stupid offensive things??.
And There's alot !! . Mel Gibson is known for his ignorant stupidity and unstable behaviour . Bet people still enjoy his movies .
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Well I for one will not be going to see any more John Barnes movies after that attack on Sir Winston


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Ehhhh I'm in two minds about this. On the one hand, really ****ing stupid thing to say out loud in public. On the other, I think the backlash is probably more damaging than the statement itself?

It wasn't a brag, it was a (very, very badly worded) way of saying that when he was young and stupid something happened that turned him into a racist and that that was wrong, and stupid, and he realised that and is pointing out that his mindset was completely wrong. Was there any need for him to bring it up? Probably not, and like I said he should have been much more careful with his wording (I think he was wording "his mindset at the time", not how he feels now)...

...However... Why I think the backlash is damaging. Because it's saying "It doesn't matter that you think it's wrong now - the fact that you EVER thought like that means your career is over." And the reason that's a problem is that it is very damaging to getting other people to change their ways. Are "bad people" not much, much less likely to try to do better, if the message is "it doesn't matter what you do now, you will always be judged on who you once were". Making a change is hard and if it feels like you're going to be regarded as "the old you" forever, anyway, then does that not decrease the incentive to change?

People who WERE once racist, or homophobic, or anything else like that but now have a different mindset should be encouraged to share their story... because while it might be uncomfortable, doing so just might spark the idea of change in someone else. The "pretend it never happened, sweep it under the carpet" mindset doesn't benefit anyone.
One of the most damaging things to progress in today's world is the inability to forgive and let people learn from their mistakes. Some people will always be hateful but a lot of people are just ignorant in the moment and can learn from their mistakes but when people go on the attack against them, it hardens them, it makes them a martyr.

There's a time for anger and a time for empathy, if we are ever to truly change things we must seek to help people understand rather than alienate them and cut off their potential to ever learn.

When I first saw the headline and the initial story I was like 'jesus ****ing christ, how to sink your career in a few words right there'. But after reading the full story, I think it's important that he spoke about it and show that people can change and that they can learn.

I do feel that the reason why the world is currently in a period of electing Trumps and Bolsoneros, why the extreme right is on the rise, is because I think people have become more concerned with attacking rather than empathy, some people deserve to be alienated but most have the capacity to learn and do better. I think the left has often created sympathetic right wing figures through the cancel culture and have impeded progress through their own extreme actions.
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He was defending Liam Neeson.
Yes he did
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Exactly what TS and Dezzy said.
If people aren’t ever given the opportunity to be forgiven for their past mistakes after they’ve fundamentally changed their outlook then it diminishes the incentive for change.It also diminishes the incentive for people to talk openly and honestly about the experiences in their life.
Then we end up with a bland homogeneous society of everyone lying their way to being seen as the bastion of the perfect human.When they could be influencing other people to change their ways too.

Not to mention nobody knows how they would react to a loved one being raped unless it’s happened to them.Grief hits people in different ways.

I do think though that their are some heinous crimes that are unforgivable.

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He went onto Good Morning America
at least , saying he was not a Racist
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A clip from Good Morning America


https://news.sky.com/story/liam-nees...acist-11628872


He says he said it around 40 years ago.

Also a poll

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It's a mess because I can actually understand what he's trying to get at, but I know a lot of people just won't because he's going about it in a really weird / muddled way .
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I'm surprised he didn't find one.
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Loose women are now talking about it Saira is going well mad about it
Well she would,she gets butt hurt over everything,she has morals don't you know, sick of hearing her whining on tbh .
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I'm surprised he didn't find one.
i know right

it actually sounds like a total BS story

he probably went out one night and thought about it

40 years later he has embellished it like one of his crap films
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