[LaLaLand]

I really didn't see that coming and I should have

[Liam-]

Nodded off for 5 minutes, woke up to Lesnar on top of a ladder, thoughg i was hallucinating

That’s such dumb booking it’s ridiculous, but completely believable by Vince’s standards

[Denver]

Like from what I gather very few fans love Brock and he has very little in ring skills and does the same like 5 moves so why does Vince always suck him off

[Denver]

Stunts like this is what AEW capitalise on and if they get it right Vince is ****ed

[Denver]

You would be pissed off of you were the other 7, putting their bodies on the line for that to happen just shows they are not respected

[RileyH]

Why the **** have they made Bayley champion

[RileyH]

Hope this tired ass company ROTS

[Calderyon]

Lol at the results. Didn´t watch the PPV and very glad i didn´t.

[Braden]

bayley in the bank was a seriously boring and predictable outcome and i'm not saying that as someone who was spoiled on what would happen seconds into watching the ppv . the women's money in the bank match was underwhelming, and i feel like most of the women were not utilised well enough. the only two (maybe three) good moments were: ember eclipsing off the ladder, mandy seemingly damaging carmella's knee, and sonya hauling mandy over her shoulders and climbing the ladder to help her retrieve the briefcase.

the lacey/becky match was the highlight of the card for me. i'm totally behind lacey as a heel now - she plays her character perfectly, and i loved her entrance. charlotte winning the title was fine because it was obvious what was going to happen next. i've never been a fan of bayley and kinda hate her gimmick a lot, so never got behind her but it was fun to see the crowd rally and cheer her on. it's also good in terms of helping more storylines develop and having more women shine, since becky having both belts stifled that a little bit. hopefully it's not just bayley vs charlotte for the next god knows how many more months.

men's money in the bank was quite good but the ending was laughable. i kind of loved it in a way because it just puts more heat on brock.

all in all, a bit of a disappointing ppv for a type that i normally enjoy.

[Denver]

I just have a feeling this new title will be the Wildcard title as I dont see them going back to a Hardcore Title when they dont even have Hardcore Matches anymore,

Although I wouldnt be surprised to see a TV Title

[Liam-]

I must have dozed off through it, so only saw it this morning, that sunset flip spot onto the ladder was incredible, Finn’s back must be in agony today

[Braden]

also, as sick as it sounds samoa joe looked quite hot with blood gushing from his nose. him and kevin owens are daddy af.

[Jordan.]

Just caught up and what a ****ing insult to everyone in the mens match

[Denver]

Apparently it's going to be a Legends Title

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Apparently it's going to be a Legends Title

They’re gonna have Goldberg hold it aren’t they

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Apparently it's going to be a Legends Title

What's the bloody point?

Typical Vince logic! Low ratings = get a "legend" on the show so massively bombed ratings = let's create a title for them to fight over every week!!11!!1

I read an article last night that had snippets from an interview/call-in from a WWE writer (current or ex idk, probably ex) who was really candid about what's going on backstage with everything, will try and find it.

[LaLaLand]

Oh here it is, bit of a long read but VERY interesting. Fuels the rumours of late about how Vince and HHH are at loggerheads:

The stories we’ve heard about people being frustrated with Vince McMahon have been confirmed by many people in the company and it’s no secret that wrestlers are looking at their options when their contracts expire.

Some of the usual stories (and some new ones) were confirmed on Wade Keller’s Pro Wrestling Post-Show when a close friend of three WWE writers called into his show after Monday Night Raw. It’s very clear that the buck stops with Vince McMahon and it doesn’t look like real change is coming anytime soon.

Here are things said on the podcast by the close friend of three current WWE writers:

– WWE’s problems are not the fault of the writers. “No one should rip on WWE creative. They have some of the most brilliant, unbelievable cool ideas that I’ve ever heard…” He was told, “We’re writing for an audience of one and never forget that [and if not] you’re out of here.”

– “The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H. He’ll always take, especially the NXT guys, under his wing. It looks like he’s consoling them. It looks so much like he was the most frustrated person in the building every single night.”

– The Wild Card Rule was not in the script on the morning of the show.

– The Superstar Shake-Up changed week to week and it didn’t pan out how it was originally laid out months prior. Everything changed because Vince just decided to change it.

– He talked about the turnover with so many backstage people quitting or being fired.

– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.

– The caller emphasized that the problems in WWE are not creative’s fault and Vince McMahon is the one person who deserves the blame.

– Vince wants suggestions from everyone but it never gets on TV. 99 out of 100 times you can come up with an idea for Vince and it won’t be used.

– The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.

– Vince McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT. He “maybe” watches Takeover shows.

– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

– The writers say there is no chance of Vince stepping down.

– Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better. Creative will pitch something for her and she gets nothing up until recently with MITB.

– The caller offered to tell Wade Keller off the air of some cool storylines that were pitched and never used.

– The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.

– One writer is very close to quitting because he is so “unbelievably unhappy” and many of the writers are paranoid and think they are close to being fired.

– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

– When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him. The writers praised Neville for being so easy to work with.

– Ideas never pan out as originally planned because writers will come up with stuff and then Vince loses interest after a week or two. He used Mojo Rawley as an example.

– The money is good and it’s a dream job for many writers but it gets frustrating. The talent is very unhappy and people are trying to get out of their contracts.

– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”

– Shane McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have tried to talk to Vince but it hasn’t worked.

– The people on the writing staff listens to podcasts and they hear fans bashing them. “It breaks their heart,” he said.

– Vince is in the announcer’s ear “to a sentence” and he gets on them for tiny mistakes.

– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

– There are 37 total writers and they are now working on both shows.

– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.

– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

– The Firefly Fun House stuff is all Bray Wyatt’s idea. Bray is described is an “absolute genius” and he helps other wrestlers with their promos. “He’s one of the best guys in the locker room.”

– The writers he talked to say they loved when there was a real brand split.

– He mentioned The Revival/Usos storyline being done because Vince just thinks its funny.

– Some of the writers think Road Dogg will eventually end up in AEW. (Note: Road Dogg is currently on hiatus and there’s no word on when he will be back or what he would be doing if he returns).

[Denver]

HHH will be the best thing to ever happen to WWE

[Denver]

Apparently everyone backstage including Ali were told Ali was winning MITB and he was booked to win it until last week

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Apparently it's going to be a Legends Title

I was hoping it would be a rebranded Hardcore title


As for Lesnar... maybe they'll just have him lose the MITB soon / at some point? But I mean probably not and it'd still be a bit pointless

[JerseyWins]

Honestly, I love the way Vince books things. Always have. Mostly from back in the day but I still do. You can't always give the fans what they want, it would get boring and old. And some of the ways he pisses off fans is actually greeeat for drama in the company.

[Liam-]

It would never get boring to have decently booked wrestling to watch

He books himself in circles, he moans that the ratings are going down, does a few weeks of alright booking, then does something to purposely piss us off for not watching, the ratings go back down, then he moans again, repeat time after time, that’s how we end up with things like the wildcard rule, he’s out of his depth these days, Trips needs to take over asap.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Adam.

HHH will be the best thing to ever happen to WWE

What if Vince changes his will and makes Shane the sole heir? Or divides it fifty-fifty between Shane and Stephanie?

[Denver]

So the new title is expected to have the same expects as the Hardcore title but wont be called the hardcore title,

A match can take place anywhere at anytime as long as a ref is present

[Denver]

One rumour was that it would be Goldberg vs Undertaker for the Legends title which kind of made sense but the hardcore style title is from a more reliable source

Originally Posted by Adam.

So the new title is expected to have the same expects as the Hardcore title but wont be called the hardcore title,

A match can take place anywhere at anytime as long as a ref is present