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Old 14-02-2019, 01:56 AM #1
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Default Ex-London schoolgirl, 19, who ran away to join ISIS now wants to come home to the UK

[A schoolgirl who fled Britain to join
Islamic State has been found
heavily pregnant in a refugee camp.

Shamima Begum was just 15 when she
and two classmates
travelled to Syria in February 2015.
She described witnessing beheadings, bombings
and the loss of her two infant children
as the caliphate fell apart around her.
However the 19-year-old says she
does not regret joining the
terror group – but now wants to come home.
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https://news.sky.com/story/i-dont-re...-baby-11636715


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-pregnant.html






Of Course she wants to return
to the Fun times in England.
But under Law she must go to Jail.

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Leave her over there, she made her bed now let her lay in it.
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A schoolgirl who fled London aged 15 to join ISIS has been found heavily pregnant in a refugee camp and said: 'I don't regret coming here
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In an extraordinary interview with The Times she said: 'I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.
Oh gee, should she be allowed back, this is such a tough question!!!

Once her baby is born, s/he should be brought back to the UK and given to a deserving, normal, loving family, and she should be left to lie in the bed she made.
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Soz darling,We Don’t do severed heads in this country
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She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.
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She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.


Yes she needs to say she regrets it all.
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She does not regret joining the terror group? that's an incredible thing to say when you want to come home, also one of the girls who went with her was killed in an airstrike so an incredible insensitive thing to say given how her family will be feeling.
Yeah it doesn't seem to be "oh my god, what have I done, please help", but "I want a cushy life in a council flat at the taxpayers' expense"

Even if she is allowed back without being detained, she certainly shouldn't be allowed to raise the child.
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Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.
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On balance, I think not as to returning, sorry.
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Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.
Even then, she'd probably raise her baby to either be a fighter for islam, or a baby making machine
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Depends if she fought or not I guess...if she didn't and was only their to produce future fighters then I see her more as a victim than anything else so would not mind her coming back into the care of the establishment.
Whether she fought her not is immaterial that is like saying the get away driver in a bank robbery had nothing to do with the robbery as he didn't enter the premises, I find her attitude problematic, no remorse, just get me home now Im pregnant and ISIS have more or less fallen and a refugee camp is not the place for me, would she want to come home if that were not the case is the question
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The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.
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This bitch expects me to feel sorry for her? I don’t!
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Knowing how soft and tolerating this country can be at times I'm pretty sure they are gonna let her back but they shouldn't especially the fact she has no regrets that still shows her stayed of mind.

I know it was only a TV program but remember when David Budd felt sympathetic towards the woman on the train but she was behind it all along that's a sad reflection of what people on this country do they will feel sorry for her because she is a pregnant woman but she has a dangerous mind
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I agree Cherie,the fact that she is not remorseful at all warrants her staying where she thought was better,she probably still does ,just wants the comforts of giving birth here,no thanks,she also lost two previous children through air strikes apparently,you live by the sword ,you die by the sword.
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If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.
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The thing that worries me is that she shows no remorse. No return for terrorist.
That's what tipped the balance for me to say no too.
Absolutely right.
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I think if she was actually remorseful and because she was so young when she went, It could be beneficial to have her work for the other side and speak out to other impressionable young people about the reality of that kind of life however it seems like she's not remorseful at all so zero sympathy there at all
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Yikes. She'll no doubt get her wish and a comfortable return then.
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If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.
Yeah I kinda take this view as well. I'd rather she didn't return but I think we have a responsibility as she is our citizen. If someone from another country came over here to support terrorism and then their home country were like: 'nah we don't want them back, they can stay with you' then everybody would be raging. I think she should serve some long jail time though, she clearly still has a lot of affection for 'the caliphate' and would be happy enough there if they weren't on the verge of defeat
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Yikes. She'll no doubt get her wish and a comfortable return then.
I guess if you're British they have to take you back? But how they faced no consequences is crazy
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If she's a British citizen then she's our responsibility, is really the be all and end all of the discussion over whether or not she should be brought back into the UK. Countries can't just start saying "not our problem" and exiling. Why would anywhere else want her, either? So if she's dangerous / guilty and needs locked up, so be it, but if she's British then it's Britain that has to provide the cell I'm afraid.
yes true, but still if she truly feels scared there and wants to come back to UK for safety then i would let her back in

but if she's changed too much for the worse (i mean become more radical extremistic after her stay at ISIS) then i would say take her in but lock her up
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Let her and her unborn suicide bomb rot tbh
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