[Denver]

i am also convinced she only wants to come home to recruit

[Jordan.]

Glad she likely wont be returning BUT she did raise a point questioning why others have been allowed back but not her. Seems because it's all over the news she's being used to set an example (far too late), meanwhile all the others who returned before her were quietly swept under the carpet.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Glad she likely wont be returning BUT she did raise a point questioning why others have been allowed back but not her. Seems because it's all over the news she's being used to set an example (far too late), meanwhile all the others who returned before her were quietly swept under the carpet.

It is a good point, and one the public should be made aware of, only 1 in 4 returning Jihadis ever see the inside of a courtroom, Those that did return must have been in position to get themselves to Turkey or Iraq so they could be helped by the British consulate, her downfall was doing the interview and coming across so badly in it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm not surprised Bangladesh are pissed off about our attempts to offload her onto them when she's never visited the country in her life and has no links there, I can't see this decision standing

Children of one Bangladeshi parent have automatic citizenship up to the age of 21 without every visiting the country, that is their criteria they cant chop and change this to suit the situation

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Children of one Bangladeshi parent have automatic citizenship up to the age of 21 without every visiting the country, that is their criteria they cant chop and change this to suit the situation

Again, criticising Bangladesh for "chopping and changing to suit the situation" because they don't want to take her... whilst fully in support of the UK stripping her citizenship because we don't want to take her . Come on Cherie.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Children of one Bangladeshi parent have automatic citizenship up to the age of 21 without every visiting the country, that is their criteria they cant chop and change this to suit the situation

as much as I don't want her to return, it is a bit of a stretch to dump her on Bangladesh, i don't see it happening

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Again, criticising Bangladesh for "chopping and changing to suit the situation" because they don't want to take her... whilst fully in support of the UK stripping her citizenship because we don't want to take her . Come on Cherie.

Come on TS, two completely different situations, the UK government have utilised a clause to strip citizenship and for very good reason,the Bangladeshis are ignoring their own criteria, I dont blame them for not wanting her though.

CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH
Those that are born to at least one Bangladeshi parent acquire citizenship at birth. Those that are born in Bangladesh to parents whose identity and/or nationality are unknown also acquire citizenship by birth, as the child is assumed to be born to Bangladeshi nationals.

Citizenship at birth is also conferred upon Urdu-speaking people of Bangladesh since May 2008.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

as much as I don't want her to return, it is a bit of a stretch to dump her on Bangladesh, i don't see it happening

oh I agree but they cant say she doesn't meet the criteria when she clearly does up to the age of 21 if her mother is Bangladeshi

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Come on TS, two completely different situations, the UK government have utilised a clause to strip citizenship and for very good reason,the Bangladeshis are ignoring their own criteria, I dont blame them for not wanting her though.

CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH
Those that are born to at least one Bangladeshi parent acquire citizenship at birth. Those that are born in Bangladesh to parents whose identity and/or nationality are unknown also acquire citizenship by birth, as the child is assumed to be born to Bangladeshi nationals.

Citizenship at birth is also conferred upon Urdu-speaking people of Bangladesh since May 2008.

Yeah but surely they can refuse that to people who've enver been and are terrorists?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah but surely they can refuse that to people who've enver been and are terrorists?

I am sure they can, but what is being reported is that she doesn't meet their criteria

I don't blame them or Holland for not wanting her, she hasn't exactly come across well in interviews so you have to wonder how bright she is and how easily manipulated she is, that said she hasn't done enough to be put in prison for any decent amount of time, so more money spent watching her will be the only way to go when she does eventually return because I have no doubt she will get back eventually

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am sure they can, but what is being reported is that she doesn't meet their criteria

I don't blame them or Holland for not wanting her, she hasn't exactly come across well in interviews so you have to wonder how bright she is and how easily manipulated she is, that said she hasn't done enough to be put in prison for any decent amount of time, so more money spent watching her will be the only way to go when she does eventually return because I have no doubt she will get back eventually

Oh I've no doubt she'll get back here either. Already there are plenty of people more concerned about her than the victims of IS.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh I've no doubt she'll get back here either. Already there are plenty of people more concerned about her than the victims of IS.

The world is truly screwed, to many do gooder’s , giving scum rights over the people they set out to murder.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The world is truly screwed, to many do gooder’s , giving scum rights over the people they set out to murder.

There's never any mention in the press about her family, except when we're being told they think our government is unjust. But they're supporters of extremism too. Personally I think this story needs to be off the news and off the front page.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh I've no doubt she'll get back here either. Already there are plenty of people more concerned about her than the victims of IS.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The world is truly screwed, to many do gooder’s , giving scum rights over the people they set out to murder.

Originally Posted by Livia

There's never any mention in the press about her family, except when we're being told they think our government is unjust. But they're supporters of extremism too. Personally I think this story needs to be off the news and off the front page.

Indeed, who cares about them and what they are up to

[Oliver_W]

Even if she is deemed to be allowed to return, I don't think she should be aided in any way. The best case scenario (for her) should be "kay, we won't stop you, but make your own way here, we'll keep your cell warm xoxo"

[Livia]

I'm confused by Bangladesh's response and the way some people have just accepted it. Bengladesh says she's not one of theirs and people automatically believe them. Under Bangladesh law, a UK national who is born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen. I think Cherie might have already said this... soz if it's a repeat.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm not surprised Bangladesh are pissed off about our attempts to offload her onto them when she's never visited the country in her life and has no links there, I can't see this decision standing

Yup. I see a lot of anger at Bangladesh (and even fucing Turkey?!) all over facebook. But they have done **** all wrong.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It is a good point, and one the public should be made aware of, only 1 in 4 returning Jihadis ever see the inside of a courtroom, Those that did return must have been in position to get themselves to Turkey or Iraq so they could be helped by the British consulate, her downfall was doing the interview and coming across so badly in it.

What the actual hell? Thats seriously shocking.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am sure they can, but what is being reported is that she doesn't meet their criteria

I don't blame them or Holland for not wanting her, she hasn't exactly come across well in interviews so you have to wonder how bright she is and how easily manipulated she is, that said she hasn't done enough to be put in prison for any decent amount of time, so more money spent watching her will be the only way to go when she does eventually return because I have no doubt she will get back eventually

Ah, I get the angry posts about Bangladesh then...its the lies, rather than the decision? As if they dont want her for what shes done, its the same as our decision really.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm confused by Bangladesh's response and the way some people have just accepted it. Bengladesh says she's not one of theirs and people automatically believe them. Under Bangladesh law, a UK national who is born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen. I think Cherie might have already said this... soz if it's a repeat.

How can you possibly be confused that Bangladesh - where she has never even visited - don't want to accept her as a citizen and yet fully supportive of the fact that the UK - where she was born and raised - don't want to accept her as a citizen? I'm not even being flippant here I honestly don't understand how anyone can hold such a self-contradictory opinion on this.

UK: "We don't want her, she's a terrorist, we're stripping her citizenship. Bangladesh can give her citizenship."

Bangladesh: "We don't want her as a citizen either."

UK: "WHAT??!?!? This is an outrage you HAVE to accept it."

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Glad she likely wont be returning BUT she did raise a point questioning why others have been allowed back but not her. Seems because it's all over the news she's being used to set an example (far too late), meanwhile all the others who returned before her were quietly swept under the carpet.

Because she's an excellent distraction tactic from the utter trainwreck that is Brexit.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Wasnt her child born in Turkey? cant they offer her citizenship on that grounds

Why would they? The baby was born in Syria.

There's no real ifs or buts about it, Bangladesh have no reason to accept her and there's no real claim to offload her onto another country.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because she's an excellent distraction tactic from the utter trainwreck that is Brexit.

This is what I came in to post.....whilst the public is outraged at the possibility of her coming home, the government can continue hurtling towards a no deal brexit

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

How can you possibly be confused that Bangladesh - where she has never even visited - don't want to accept her as a citizen and yet fully supportive of the fact that the UK - where she was born and raised - don't want to accept her as a citizen? I'm not even being flippant here I honestly don't understand how anyone can hold such a self-contradictory opinion on this.

UK: "We don't want her, she's a terrorist, we're stripping her citizenship. Bangladesh can give her citizenship."

Bangladesh: "We don't want her as a citizen either."

UK: "WHAT??!?!? This is an outrage you HAVE to accept it."

Everyone born to Bangladeshi parents is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen. That's the plain truth. Stating that's just me being contradictory is ridiculous. They don't want to take her... fine. She's stuck then, isn't she.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

This is what I came in to post.....whilst the public is outraged at the possibility of her coming home, the government can continue hurtling towards a no deal brexit

I think the News organisations have to take responsibility. The government can't dictate what the news makes their top story. It's an incendiary story and the News orgs will run with that, rather than give us another twenty minutes on the mare's nest that is Brexit.