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20-02-2019, 02:42 PM | #176 | |||
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i think they should all wear hats with the EU stars on them
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20-02-2019, 02:44 PM | #177 | |||
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20-02-2019, 02:45 PM | #178 | |||
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20-02-2019, 02:57 PM | #179 | |||
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[Labour shuts down campaign tools
after Independent Group MP tries to steal data. Labour spokesperson: “We have become aware of attempts to access personal data held on the party’s systems by individuals who are not authorised to do so.”] |
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20-02-2019, 03:49 PM | #180 | |||
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laura carter stan
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Anna Soubry and the gal who kept flipping her hair backwards during her speech attacking the Tories’ handling of the welfare system are icons
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20-02-2019, 03:52 PM | #181 | |||
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You know my methods
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Bunch of deadbeats
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20-02-2019, 04:04 PM | #182 | ||
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good luck to them, anything to disturb the awful status quo of the stallinist corbyn and vampiric rees-mogg
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20-02-2019, 04:28 PM | #183 | |||
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General Election they could all be gone Thats the real test. Last edited by arista; 20-02-2019 at 04:28 PM. |
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20-02-2019, 05:08 PM | #184 | |||
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Anna Soubry
Local Conservative Party are now selecting a New Member her area vote to leave. But she ignored them. Ref: BBC1 news. Last edited by arista; 20-02-2019 at 06:29 PM. |
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20-02-2019, 05:55 PM | #185 | |||
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If you Love Anna
Give her ring tomorrow from 10AM-1PM Live On LBC her one day filling in for the normal left wing fella on holiday all week. Last edited by arista; 20-02-2019 at 05:58 PM. |
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20-02-2019, 06:02 PM | #186 | |||
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The peoples princesses
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We love McBusted
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20-02-2019, 06:13 PM | #187 | |||
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Ch4HD news in Anna Soubry
local area Broxtowe, Nottinghamshire met the Labour members office who say no one wants her now , no one likes her. She is live on Ch4HD news. Last edited by arista; 20-02-2019 at 06:28 PM. |
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21-02-2019, 07:41 AM | #188 | ||
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Remembering Kerry
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The thing on this too is.
Where, if this becomes a Party which with more defections it could. Where does this leave the hapless Lib Dems. Even a wholly hard right Conservative Party and a wholly hard left Labour Party, are still in this electoral system, going to dominate the votes. Between them or more to one or the other. This grouping, are like a more non toxic Lib Dems. I can't now see a future for the Lib Dems at all unless they align with this group. Having to have to drop the Lib Dem name. Who says politics are dull. For me now, The next Conservative leader needs to reach out more and have more leadership qualities in office. Also to compromise and really listen, not just hear people's voices. Corbyn must and very soon,.actively and forcefully rid the Labour Party of every single individual with any antisemitic views. If he's not going to do so. Then he should go, also it may already be too late for him to both have the will or ability now to do so in many peoples eyes. I also know those who hate him, identify him as the problem to clearing it out. I don't hold to that view of him myself, ..... yet. Words are easy however, action is needed and strong action which he needs to exert to gain any credibility on the issue. I am furious and dismayed any Jewish person, family or community, feel any concerns in the UK. That is and should be a Nationwide disgrace. This new grouping however, in the main want to really remain in the EU. Also want a new vote on it. Corbyn has been right to resist calling for a new vote. As is the government. Because any new referendum would need 3 questions. The deal, whatever is on offer. Leave with no deal. Remain on current.terms. That will split votes. I think bring a worse, closer and even indecisive result. Solving nothing. So for me, this new grouping and how they are all going to stick to their so called long held principles and vital policies,to construct anything they all could comfortably agree on as a manifesto. I think that will be a major problem. United on brexit but big divisions as, if they do, more join them on other issues and policies. That's likely another story. Last edited by joeysteele; 21-02-2019 at 07:43 AM. |
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21-02-2019, 08:30 AM | #189 | |||
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if we look at all this logically, if big numbers of conservatives move over to this new group, the conservatives would be forced to call a general election as they wouldnt have the numbers. If that were to happen, most of this new group would lose their seats .... and then it goes back to the 2 party system with maybe 1 or 2 independents at best.
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21-02-2019, 08:56 AM | #190 | |||
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Yes If any more Conservatives go Call a General Election. Wash them Away. LBC thinks a couple more But so far they they expect more from Labour to jump ship. Last edited by arista; 21-02-2019 at 09:01 AM. |
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21-02-2019, 08:57 AM | #191 | |||
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Anna Soubry is Live on LBC at 10AM
her own show until 1PM She had a Old Guy Very Angry with her. Last edited by arista; 21-02-2019 at 09:14 AM. |
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21-02-2019, 09:27 AM | #192 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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Is it regular, or one-off?
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21-02-2019, 09:29 AM | #193 | |||
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One Day Only the Left Wing fella is on a week holiday. She is getting angry callers Last edited by arista; 21-02-2019 at 09:31 AM. |
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21-02-2019, 10:57 AM | #194 | |||
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I detest Mz Soubry.
All her insistence she knows what’s best etc, she is an MP to represent her constituents, not her own point of view. What is the point of the public getting a vote if their representatives don’t back that vote in parliament for them? |
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21-02-2019, 11:46 AM | #195 | |||
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21-02-2019, 12:55 PM | #196 | |||
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Pathetic Heidi Allen wants to kill them off try to - but soon at a Election - you will be gone |
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24-02-2019, 10:19 AM | #197 | |||
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Reports a Labour Funder may switch to
this Group to Fund them in today's Telegraph. Back when the 2 Conservatives left David Cameron for UKIP they had by elections So that is what this scared bunch must do. If The PM calls another Snap Election (because of her Brexit blockage) this bunch will all get washed away Last edited by arista; 24-02-2019 at 10:32 AM. |
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24-02-2019, 10:25 AM | #198 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Confirmed they will start a new party
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24-02-2019, 10:27 AM | #199 | ||
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I don't know what to think of this. I do admire them for sticking to their views so much that this has happened, and I do think that its basically an emergency, this Corbyn thing now as people (especially women and Jewish people) are leaving the Labour party in droves. I think the damage he is doing to the party may be irreparable. So Torys basically will rule for a long time. Corbyn DID seem the answer, I mean, people on here will know I was maybe one of his biggest cheerleaders a couple of years back, but I have done a total 180 now..and honestly, currently if there was an election tomorrow, as much as I detest the Tories (I mean, I have a disability and will be treat worse by Tory rule than most others..have been treat..) I could not vote for Labour with Corbyn at the helm..I just couldn't. And lets be honest, its going to be a choice between Labour and Tories for the foreseeable future, maybe forever, thats just how it is. Local elections, I would vote for my Labour MP as he is amazing and has helped me a fair few times with tribunals waiting times, and being told I had to sign onto jobseekers when ATOS declared me cured, but then being refused jobseekers as I was 'clearly not fit for work and I would be breaking the law to say you were fine to look for jobs' But a general election..I would probably abstain, which is likely the same as voting Tory.
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24-02-2019, 10:34 AM | #200 | |||
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(I would probably abstain)
What about a Snap Election no time for you to abstain Vicky. |
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