[LeatherTrumpet]

Great series that ran like a huge promo for innocent Kate

Finally the doubters silenced

[Alf]

It was so sad at the end when it was showing video of Maddie with her family. And when she was singing "if you're happy and you know it" that choked me.

[UserSince2005]

bit of a boring show. 3 episodes in. hoping it would get better.
I was hoping for some drama storyline with them selling their kids to a portuguese paedophile and them getting caught and locked up forever.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

bit of a boring show. 3 episodes in. hoping it would get better.
I was hoping for some drama storyline with them selling their kids to a portuguese paedophile and them getting caught and locked up forever.

I think it's based on facts, not fiction.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

I CHOKED

Wksjksjskjs

[Elliot]

Every story and theory, even the one said by the Mcanns themselves, is full of holes and i don’t think we’ll ever know what truly happened to Madeline. I personally believed she was accidentally drugged and killed and the Mcanns covered it up but who am I or anyone to say? Like Kate barely crying in one interview or Gerry not being externally emotional doesn’t really prove anything. Good documentary tho, was interesting to see the tabloids twist evidence with that Portuguese reporter.

[Josy]

I found this to be very pro McCann nearer the end.

My opinion has always been that the parents and the tapas people know a lot more about what happened than they let on, I've never believed the abduction story especially after having read the case files and everything else that's publically available.

This documentary never done anything to change my mind well apart from making me find Gerry even more slimy.

[Niamh.]

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?

May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?

They were always after the parents from the start.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?

They were always after the parents from the start.

In their hire car though 25 days after she'd gone missing? Also, it doesn't sound very realistic that they get a corpse and just drop it around the apartment and into a hire car they were using without anyone noticing. That apartment had media and rubber neckers all over it all the time for a start.

[Twosugars]

Somebody's said they are satanists and used Maddy as human sacrifice in a black mass.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?



They were always after the parents from the start.

What about the cadaver scent picked up in kates clothes? Did the Portuguese police plant a body in them too?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?

They completely rubbished the dogs, said it wasn't evidence.

That's when I started thinking the documentary was pro McCann tbh

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Josy

What about the cadaver scent picked up in kates clothes? Did the Portuguese police plant a body in them too?

The clothes were handled by police before the dogs got a go at them.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

The clothes were handled by police before the dogs got a go at them.

I just dont believe they would go to those lengths tbh, they weren't after the parents from the start at all

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Josy

I just dont believe they would go to those lengths tbh, they weren't after the parents from the start at all

They certainly wasn't searching for Maddie.

They got an early reporting of the guy who caught two people carrying a child and trying to hide the fact they had a child, when the guys headlights shone on them. Near the harbour, I think it was. They never followed that up immediately.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

They certainly wasn't searching for Maddie.



They got an early reporting of the guy who caught two people carrying a child and trying to hide the fact they had a child, when the guys headlights shone on them. Near the harbour, I think it was. They never followed that up immediately.

The McCann's weren't searching for her either

I do agree they could have done more.

Do you genuinely believe she was abducted then?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Josy

The McCann's weren't searching for her either

I do agree they could have done more.

Do you genuinely believe she was abducted then?

Of course she was.

There's absolutely no motive or strong evidence that anything else happened.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Of course she was.



There's absolutely no motive or strong evidence that anything else happened.

Hmm I completely disagree.

Theres actually no real evidence from the scene that she was abducted (apart from her just not being there anymore) in fact there's quite strong evidence that the abduction was staged, Kate's handprint being the only one on the window etc

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm just really confused by the whole thing. I didn't believe they were guilty of anything from the start, I just don't know when or how they could have disposed of the body so efficiently without anyone finding any trace of her.

Slowly, that started to change over time as I started to doubt their story more and more; I think there is some stuff that has been hidden, but I think its more likely it was to protect the group from negligence prosecutions and the potential of having their children removed.

I definitely lean more to abduction again, but I'm not honestly sure.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Josy

Hmm I completely disagree.

Theres actually no real evidence from the scene that she was abducted (apart from her just not being there anymore) in fact there's quite strong evidence that the abduction was staged, Kate's handprint being the only one on the window etc

So who's in on this then?

Just Kate and Gerry?

The whole of the holiday party?


When did they do it?
Why did they do it?
How did they get rid of the body, which hasn't been found in over a decade, in a place they presumably don't know that well?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Alf

So who's in on this then?



Just Kate and Gerry?



The whole of the holiday party?





When did they do it?

Why did they do it?

How did they get rid of the body, which hasn't been found in over a decade, in a place they presumably don't know that well?

Obviously I can't answer your questions with facts or the case would be solved lol I can only post my opinion and after reading up on it for years I definitely do not believe she was abducted, I lean more towards it being an accident that was covered up due to the parents knowing they had been negligent in leaving the kids alone as well as sedating them.

[Alf]

The biggest clue came in the last episode, and was found by Kate herself.

The book at the Tapas bar which stated that they were leaving their children alone, while they dined, and was available for anybody to see.

[Toy Soldier]

Easy (and frankly probable) answer to "what are the Tapas gang hiding" when it comes to their story and why the time frame doesn't make sense:

They weren't checking on them anywhere near as often as they claim and probably hadn't checked at all before Kate found her missing. They just don't want to say "yeah we were getting the kids to sleep then ****ing off the the tapas bar all evening, every evening".

[Alf]

I think more than 1 person carried out the abduction. They had the information that the children would be alone, and a crew of people planned and carried this out. Some as lookouts.