[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Last time the eco warriors disrupted the capital they left a sea of rubbish behind them, plastics mostly. Marching through London with a banner isn't going to stop China dumping plastic into the sea, destroying coral reefs by a myriad of measures, being the biggest market for illegal ivory and rhino horn... I think the UK is doing a lot to combat global warming and individually I think people are awake to the fact that we all have to help. I think that it alienates those of us who do what we can for the environment for people to march when the sun's out and not take their crap home with them... and then have them held up as heroes.

I presume these people are British though not Chinese?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I presume these people are British though not Chinese?

Yes, I expect they are. Because a protest like this would never be allowed in China. So maybe target their embassy. At least then some Chinese people will see it, despite China's control of the web.

The Blue Planet nearly broke the Internet in China and since then, groups of Chinese people have got together to think about how they can reduce waste and clean up the oceans. Pressure groups such as these are not usually allowed in China, but I think the government gauged the strength of feeling about the pollution of the oceans and have allowed these groups to meet. We need more of that. Once people know the problem and know what they can do, they'll do it, mostly. And I think the UK is already very aware both of the problem and what we can do about it.

[Niamh.]

Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?

people can protest here all they like, but the UK is much more eco friendly than the USA, China or India, so it makes sense to target their countries by protesting at their embassies

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people can protest here all they like, but the UK is much more eco friendly than the USA, China or India, so it makes sense to target their countries by protesting at their embassies

I'm not saying you aren't, it's just I think each countries own citizens need to worry about themselves. That's the best way to get real changes imo

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?

Well, like I said, the Chinese people don't get the information we do. And I just picked China because they have billions of people, they are a major polluter and when their people know about the pollution, they try to do something.

I wouldn't like to see the carnage a protest about the Chinese government, actually IN China, would cause.

I've written to the Chinese embassy on several occasions covering human rights, animal rights and the destruction of the coral reefs. There's nothing to say you can't target the people causing the most problems.

Just a personal opinion.

[Ammi]

...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved......

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, like I said, the Chinese people don't get the information we do. And I just picked China because they have billions of people, they are a major polluter and when their people know about the pollution, they try to do something.

I wouldn't like to see the carnage a protest about the Chinese government, actually IN China, would cause.

I've written to the Chinese embassy on several occasions covering human rights, animal rights and the destruction of the coral reefs. There's nothing to say you can't target the people causing the most problems.

Just a personal opinion.

Of course not but targeting your own country/government shouldn't be poo poo'd just because China is worse either imo If we were only ever allowed to target worst cases, nothing would ever get done

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved......

I agree, I really don't get the outrage over something that's supposed to be positive

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i thought they might have more power at that than us


we keep our front and back garden clean, also the street area in front of our house we keep that part clean

protesting is nice to bring this under the attention cause we must be aware of this but you're right we ourselves must all do our share to keep our world clean

It's not just about that though , Do you use plastic ? do you drive or ever go in a car etc? do you recycle everything ? I could go on . You cant just snap you fingers and it all goes away , what we have done to the planet will take hundreds of years to put right if ever.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved......

Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree, I really don't get the outrage over something that's supposed to be positive

...it’s also involving the children as well in being aware of and speaking out about the destruction to their planet...the legacy that they’re being given ...and maybe just maybe, governments may listen more to the their voices...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.

...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz....I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz....I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...

Exactly, people are very keen to put down other peoples attempts to help by making out unless they're 100% perfect then they can't have a voice. But you drive a car seems to be a favourite one to try and shut people down

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.

we here in our country have 2 different garbage bins

Green (for garden trash) and Grey (for regular in house trash)


and we also got a bottle and a paper recycle bin near where we live in the street


so our trash already gets separated

[Liam-]

How dare they try and make their voices heard, just stick to parenting, dumb women

It’s a shame people are put down for trying to make a difference

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz....I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...

No Ammi
they are sticking with Chuck the nappies
as they are stuck on Facebook chat.

Middle Class Mothers
Fake protesters - not willing to do what they demand

[Ammi]

...so many children and adults with breathing.../...asthma type illnesses and so many cancers ...the air that we breathe is literally starting to kill us and to kill our children...it’s a very bleak outlook unless there is huge change...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

No Ammi
they are sticking with Chuck the nappies
as they are stuck on Facebook chat.

Middle Class Mothers
Fake protesters - not willing to do what they demand

...well I’m sure they’re making adjustments elsewhere, Arista ...if disposables are still being used...time is also a factor so these things have to be balanced...

[Kazanne]

I hate what we are doing and have done to the planet, but I don't think protesting does much good , much rather go down to one of the beaches etc and clean what I could up , or just get litter picking, I do my bit if I can that is all I can do, yes I drive out of necessity but that's it ,my kids walk to school and the one who is too little goes on the school bus, no one is perfect and we cant help some of the stuff that happens, but imo if we all did our bit, or at least tried,it would be good, if people want to go protest that is up to them,but I hope they don't leave the mess behind the other lot did.

[Ammi]

..I think because not everyone does do their bit and has been doing their bit over time and because there is too much pollution and health issues and too little thought etc...sometimes it has to be spoken out about though, which is what is happening today...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

still something must be done at this, otherwise we are all gonna die in 11 yrs from now on


#BetterClimate4Everyone #Fight4AHealthyLife

Beg pardon Nick but come on. No-one sensible would deny we need to change our ways, but not even the moronic AOC believes we'll all die in 11-12 years.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Beg pardon Nick but come on. No-one sensible would deny we need to change our ways, but not even the moronic AOC believes we'll all die in 11-12 years.

What has she done or said that leads you to call her moronic?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Last time the eco warriors disrupted the capital they left a sea of rubbish behind them, plastics mostly. Marching through London with a banner isn't going to stop China dumping plastic into the sea, destroying coral reefs by a myriad of measures, being the biggest market for illegal ivory and rhino horn... I think the UK is doing a lot to combat global warming and individually I think people are awake to the fact that we all have to help. I think that it alienates those of us who do what we can for the environment for people to march when the sun's out and not take their crap home with them... and then have them held up as heroes.

[The Slim Reaper]

This "protesting is pointless because other people exist in the world" is hilarious.

Mothers demand action against pedophillia - pointless, America has more than we do so protest them instead.

Mothers demand action against unsmoked Bacon - but Denmark make loads of Bacon

Mothers demand action against racism - but other countries are racist so what's the point?

It's the most small-minded way of looking at the world imaginable. Too busy looking over your neighbours fence to realise your own garden is a **** tip.