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My dad told me about this the other day and I thought he was joking with me until I looked it up last night. It’s actually really scary to think once you’re up there, you’re 100% responsible for yourself and it’s impossible to help somebody whose run into trouble up there. It’s so high that rescue missions are almost impossible and so the bodies of deceased climbers just remain there. Some recovery missions have been carried out but in some cases have resulted in more casualties.

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Climbers taking the North Col route to Everest's elusive summit inevitably end up passing the mountains most infamous landmark, “Green Boots.” While it sounds like a unique protrusion or hidden crevice on Everest's face, Green Boots is actually the frozen body of a fallen climber that earned his nickname because of the brightly colored hiking boots that he was wearing when he died. While Green Boots's identity has always been hotly contested, he is widely believed to be Indian climber Tsewang Paljor.

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Francys Arsentiev and her husband Sergei were avid climbers who sought to conquer Everest in 1998. Francys had a goal to become the first American woman to summit Everest without the use of supplemental oxygen. After two aborted attempts, she finally succeeded but was never able to celebrate her achievement.
Due to their lack of supplemental oxygen, the couple moved slowly and were not able to summit until very late in the day on May 22nd, which forced them to spend another night in the Death Zone. The couple became separated during this final evening and Sergei made his way down to Camp IV, assuming that his wife had done the same. Upon discovering her absence, Sergei raced back to the top with oxygen and medicine in hopes of rescuing his wife

While accounts vary, on May 23rd, a Uzbek team found Francys half-alive and unable to move on her own. They carried her down as far as they could until their own oxygen ran out and they had to leave Francys and descend to camp. Along the way they passed Sergei on his way up to her. He was never seen alive again.

It was Sleeping Beauty's haunting final hour that cemented her legend. On May 24th, climbers Ian Woodall and Cathy O'Dowd saw a body raggedly jerking in the shadows of the First Step, one of three steps on the northeast ridge. Francys was severely oxygen deprived, frostbitten, and still attached to her climbing line. She kept murmuring, “Don't leave me here. Don't leave me here to die.” The team abandoned their attempt to summit and spent over an hour trying to save her.
Between the perilous location, Francys slipping into unconsciousness, and their own oxygen running out, the team made the painful decision to leave her and return to camp. For nine years, climbers scaled around the frozen beauty who had become a part of Everest's landscape
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In 2007, Woodall returned to the mountain and dropped Sleeping Beauty to a lower face where she can slumber for eternity, no longer a summit marker for other climbers.

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In 2006, an experienced climber froze to death near the summit of Mt. Everest. With nearly one out of every ten climbers perishing atop the mountain on average, frozen corpses have become almost run-of-the-mill. Yet it was the death of David Sharp that nearly tore the entire climbing community apart.

British mountaineer David Sharp made his third trek to the top of Everest without the aid of oxygen, radios, Sherpas, or teammates. His first two attempts were aborted due to perilous conditions, including ravaging frostbite that took several of his toes. He successfully summitted Everest on the third try and, during his descent, stopped to rest inside Green Boots's cave, mere feet from Green Boots himself. Being disoriented and suffering exhaustion, Sharp drew his legs to his chest, rested his head upon his knees, and never woke up.

However, David Sharp did not perish right away. Over 40 different climbers passed him on the mountain and noted he was still alive but in distress. Outrage poured from around the world at the knowledge that Sharp was left moaning and murmuring to climbers who refused to abandon their quest to the top in order to help him.

Sir Edmund Hillary, who was the first person to ever successfully summit Mount Everest, spoke out against Mark Inglis and his team for allegedly seeing Sharp's distress and continuing on towards the top.
“The whole attitude toward climbing Mount Everest has become rather horrifying,” Hillary said. “A human life is far more important than just getting to the top of a mountain.”

The unwritten code among climbers is to abandon their quests in order to help others in peril. On Everest, many believe that the standard code does not apply due to the difficulties involved in climbing the tallest mountain on earth. Many argue that it's every man for himself and that Everest has become a moral “gray area." This modern mentality has pushed the climbing world into civil war, with Sharp's death only further highlighting the issue.
Inglis and his team attest that Sharp was completely frostbitten, incoherent, and beyond saving when they found him. Claims have been made that many did try to help him but seeing he was too far gone, left him and continued their journey. Others stated that an immobile Sharp was mistaken for Green Boots and overlooked. Many cry out that Sharp was left on purpose, becoming just another victim of climber greed and summit fever.

The sad truth is that it's too hard to save yourself on Everest, let alone rescue others.

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Nnnn just suddenly realised at work I hadn’t warned about the piccys on the site
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The Death Zone is commonly known as the area above 26,000 feet. When the human body enters this altitude, it slowly starts to die. Then it becomes a race against the clock for climbers to make it from this mark to the peak and back again before their body fails them. Since oxygen at this level is only a third of what it is at sea level, climbers may find themselves sluggish, disoriented, and fatigued. The pressure makes weight feel ten times heavier and causes extreme distress on organs. Because of these severe effects, climbers usually only have a window of 48 hours inside the Death Zone and are strongly urged to use supplemental oxygen at all times.



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The unwritten code among climbers is to abandon their quests in order to help others in peril. On Everest, many believe that the standard code does not apply due to the difficulties involved in climbing the tallest mountain on earth. Many argue that it's every man for himself and that Everest has become a moral “gray area." This modern mentality has pushed the climbing world into civil war, with Sharp's death only further highlighting the issue.



this is wrong in soo many ways
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I saw this on Good Morning Britain. They were reporting a bunch of climbers saying they were stepping over the bodies of people who died up there.
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The unwritten code among climbers is to abandon their quests in order to help others in peril. On Everest, many believe that the standard code does not apply due to the difficulties involved in climbing the tallest mountain on earth. Many argue that it's every man for himself and that Everest has become a moral “gray area." This modern mentality has pushed the climbing world into civil war, with Sharp's death only further highlighting the issue.



this is wrong in soo many ways
I know. Why would you even want to continue if you happened across a dying climber or even a dead body. Apparently they litter the routes up and it said that some used the ‘Green Boots’ and ‘Sleeping Beauty’ bodies as markers for how long they had left to the summit
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I know. Why would you even want to continue if you happened across a dying climber or even a dead body. Apparently they litter the routes up and it said that some used the ‘Green Boots’ and ‘Sleeping Beauty’ bodies as markers for how long they had left to the summit
And people sleeping next to and taking pictures with Green Boots

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I cannot even being to understand the mental gymnastics it would take to want to continue on after seeing dead bodies everywhere along the way up.
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I cannot even being to understand the mental gymnastics it would take to want to continue on after seeing dead bodies everywhere along the way up.
i think it's mentally very tough seeing dead bodies, let alone high up on a mountain, since dead bodies stay longer intact and less rotting at colder temperatures

so for tourism i would remove the bodies, give them a proper burial
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They can’t as they’re so high up. Some people have died trying to recover bodies. The climbers who passed Francys Arsentiev ( Sleeping Beauty body) when she was dying returned like a decade later to her body out of guilt and threw her further down the mountain so she couldn’t be seen by passers by to give her a little dignity in death.

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I'd be haunted if I was climbing a mountain and saw a lifeless body
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I had no idea about this, it sounds like some Bermuda Triangle ****
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I'd be haunted if I was climbing a mountain and saw a lifeless body
The more you think about it the more ****ed it up it becomes

Surely it should be treated as a cemetery.
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As of 2014, Green Boots was finally dropped to a lower location over the side of the mountain, where he joined the bodies of other fallen climbers that have been cleared off of the main route.
So instead of removing the bodies they just clear them from the pathway... I-
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The more you think about it the more ****ed it up it becomes

Surely it should be treated as a cemetery.
or just one area (the highest zones of mount everest) from now on as a forbidden area, since people still like coming there, and also mark that with some sort of memorial signs for people who lost their lives there

so they can still access the more safer, lower attitude zones
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Some of these stories are genuinely horrifying, 30-40 people passed the British guy who snuck in the cave and could see he was clearly distressed but ignored his cries for help.
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Some of these stories are genuinely horrifying, 30-40 people passed the British guy who snuck in the cave and could see he was clearly distressed but ignored his cries for help.
so sad, and honestly in that sort of life threatening situation, you should Always try to see if you can be of any help, doesn't matter what you do, calming someone down (since a bit more calmth can also be better than stress there)
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