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Old 08-06-2019, 05:42 PM #26
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Of course, nobody could call you a coward as you didn't have such a decision forced upon you. So you feel safe and secure to throw your judgement at the people that were forced, knowing you wouldn't have that burden. Ironic as that in itself is quite cowardly.
This is a great point.

Always easy to cast judgement upon those who are forced into difficult situations when never had to face the same situation yourself.
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I'm opting out but Chuff can take my spot since she's so keen
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National service no.

A different approach with education is the answer.
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When NS was in place you would be sent to prison for refusing and the cowards white feathers would be wavy at your family when they left the house
Yeah, 100 years ago when there was a literal global war on.
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I don’t think it’s selfish not to want to join the military

Also why make a thread asking a question like this only to shut down every single answer that’s given and call us all selfish?
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Yes
Bring it back
It will help the young
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It will help the young
By getting them killed, or at best, only seriously mentally damaged?
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By getting them killed, or at best, only seriously mentally damaged?

They will not get killed.
It will help them in Life.
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I say no because I think there are too many mentally and physically unwell people who would not be able to do it, and to implement NS again would just strengthen the stigma that these people are not capable when we're already trying very hard to break that barrier.

It also eliminates a sense of freedom that young people are not able to explore themselves for that period of time.
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They will not get killed.
It will help them in Life.
If they’re lucky enough to come back alive and sane that is
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There are far more constructive things young people can be doing, like getting an education and contributing positively to the country.

National service is a remnant of the class system where ordinary people are taught their place in society, and it doesn't wash

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Military service should be a choice, it's a very archaic way of thinking that forcing young people in Military service somehow prepares them for adult life. It was abolished for a reason, no need to bring it back just because the baby boomers want younger generations to suffer.
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We don't take good enough care of veterans that chose to serve and people want to throw unwilling young people to the wolves and add to that burden out of a twisted sense of wanting to 'teach' young people their place. Gross.
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Certainly not - we do not live in a dictatorship
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If you really want to force people into war, it should be older people as they have less life to lose, but that would be deemed immoral by the people that want to kill off youngsters.. just for being young
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Am I shocked by the replies to my question ? Of course not, its what I expected

Am I disgusted by the selfish comments ? Oh yes I sure am
Selfish? How so?

As selfish as an elderly generation wanting to bring back an archaic system to punish a younger generation they despise for.... having youth?

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Selfish? How so?

As selfish as an elderly generation wanting to bring back an archaic system to punish a younger generation they despise for.... having youth?
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Rory Stewart plans to bring this back, I believe.

National citizen service, not military, for every 16 year old.

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Rory Stewart plans to bring this back, I believe.

National citizen service, not military, for every 16 year old.
Even if it's not military, the whole idea of bringing it back is just baby boomer bitterness towards the young.

A vote grab on Rory's part.
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I think we should prepare the youth ready just incase but only training not sending them out unless they ask
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Even if it's not military, the whole idea of bringing it back is just baby boomer bitterness towards the young.

A vote grab on Rory's part.
I agree it's a vote grab.
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I think we should prepare the youth ready just incase but only training not sending them out unless they ask
I don't think we should force any kind of military training on people. If we're gonna train kids for adult life, teach them how to do taxes and handle finances. Teach them the important aspects of adult life that schools don't ready them for.
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No.

Not only from the angle of the young people being called up for it.
Also the reason the services themselves wouldn't want it.

No good having those doing any training not wanting to, nor those to get the training not wanting it either.

A major recipe for disaster across the board that would be.

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A reason why it wouldnt work is mainly because of our culture.

Korea have had it drilled into their culture since the 50s so it works perfectly for their country but people in Asia have different mindsets then those of the west so I doubt we would adapt to it very well
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