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Old 08-06-2019, 07:03 PM #1
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The MP for a primary school facing demonstrations over LGBT equality teaching has been criticised by party colleagues after telling campaigners "you're right".

In a video circulated on social media, Roger Godsiff, MP for Birmingham Hall Green, also told protesters they had a "just cause".

His remarks have led to calls for him to lose the Labour whip.

Mr Godsiff previously said the lessons were not "age appropriate".

A High Court injunction is in place banning protests, which have been going on for months, outside the school.

Parents started to gather at the gates over concerns children were "too young" to learn about LGBT relationships. They also said the lessons contradicted Islam.

In the video, Mr Godsiff, who is seen with Shakeel Afsar, the lead organiser of the protests, said: "If I had the opportunity of rolling the clock back I would do exactly the same thing again.

"Because I think you have a just cause and I regret the fact that it hasn't been reciprocated by the head teacher."

He asks demonstrators to "consider calling the protest off" as he said they have made their point, but adds it would be their choice to do so.

He then said: "I will continue to try and fight your corner because you're right.

"Nothing more, nothing less. You're right."

Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, said he would be tabling a formal complaint to the party about Mr Godsiff.

In a series of tweets, he said: "This made me feel sick to my stomach.

"One of my own Labour colleagues stood with people who have peddled hatred and bigotry on school gates, intimidating pupils, teachers and parents."

At its annual general meeting, the LGBT Labour group voted to condemn "unreservedly and unequivocally" the remarks and called for the Labour whip to be removed.

The city council's deputy leader Brigid Jones also tweeted: "How dare you tell men whose homophobic protests were so threatening and disruptive that they had a court injunction issued against them that they are 'right'.

"You do not speak for me."

A petition calling on the constituency Labour Party to deselect Mr Godsiff following his latest comments has 1,000 signatures.

In an interview with The Times on Thursday, schools minister Nick Gibb said the DfE had been "engaging with the city council almost daily to help navigate a way to a resolution".

He said the protests were "wrong" in his view, and said he supported the council's decision to secure an injunction.

On Friday, Andy Street, the mayor of the West Midlands, said the protests were "homophobic" and must "stop now".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-48569173

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The old "let's brainwash kids into thinking only straight relationships exist so we can confuse them later in life" logic is still going strong
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Anyone saying the lessons aren't "age appropriate" hasn't done their research into what the lessons actually entail
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The MP for a primary school facing demonstrations over LGBT equality teaching has been criticised by party colleagues after telling campaigners "you're right".

In a video circulated on social media, Roger Godsiff, MP for Birmingham Hall Green, also told protesters they had a "just cause".

His remarks have led to calls for him to lose the Labour whip.

Mr Godsiff previously said the lessons were not "age appropriate".

A High Court injunction is in place banning protests, which have been going on for months, outside the school.

Parents started to gather at the gates over concerns children were "too young" to learn about LGBT relationships. They also said the lessons contradicted Islam.

In the video, Mr Godsiff, who is seen with Shakeel Afsar, the lead organiser of the protests, said: "If I had the opportunity of rolling the clock back I would do exactly the same thing again.

"Because I think you have a just cause and I regret the fact that it hasn't been reciprocated by the head teacher."

He asks demonstrators to "consider calling the protest off" as he said they have made their point, but adds it would be their choice to do so.

He then said: "I will continue to try and fight your corner because you're right.

"Nothing more, nothing less. You're right."

Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, said he would be tabling a formal complaint to the party about Mr Godsiff.

In a series of tweets, he said: "This made me feel sick to my stomach.

"One of my own Labour colleagues stood with people who have peddled hatred and bigotry on school gates, intimidating pupils, teachers and parents."

At its annual general meeting, the LGBT Labour group voted to condemn "unreservedly and unequivocally" the remarks and called for the Labour whip to be removed.

The city council's deputy leader Brigid Jones also tweeted: "How dare you tell men whose homophobic protests were so threatening and disruptive that they had a court injunction issued against them that they are 'right'.

"You do not speak for me."

A petition calling on the constituency Labour Party to deselect Mr Godsiff following his latest comments has 1,000 signatures.

In an interview with The Times on Thursday, schools minister Nick Gibb said the DfE had been "engaging with the city council almost daily to help navigate a way to a resolution".

He said the protests were "wrong" in his view, and said he supported the council's decision to secure an injunction.

On Friday, Andy Street, the mayor of the West Midlands, said the protests were "homophobic" and must "stop now".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-48569173

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How long has this protest gone on now? should have been quashed straight off
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When my eldest were at school parents got a letter saying they were going to have a talk on sex education and you had the choice ( as parents should have ) to allow them to go to the lesson or not

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Is it at a primary school? If so I think talking about sex and relationships of any kind it does seem a bit soon I certainly didn't have lessons like that until high school when you start to develop those types of feelings

When your at primary you literally just wanna skid around on the floor and fling stones at people of the opposite sex...
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Is it at a primary school? If so I think talking about sex and relationships of any kind it does seem a bit soon I certainly didn't have lessons like that until high school when you start to develop those types of feelings

When your at primary you literally just wanna skid around on the floor and fling stones at people of the opposite sex...

They are books with Drawings
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Is it at a primary school? If so I think talking about sex and relationships of any kind it does seem a bit soon I certainly didn't have lessons like that until high school when you start to develop those types of feelings

When your at primary you literally just wanna skid around on the floor and fling stones at people of the opposite sex...
It has nothing to do with sex Jake, its part of the diversity and inclusion programme from which most of the the people complaining outside the school will have benefitted from. Much the same as you will now see children with disabilities in story books, and people of colour, they also want to share books with stories about two mums or two dads so it just run of the mill as it should be, not some big deal
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What a weak fool, I hope his efforts to appease those bigoted morons bites him in the arse and he loses the whip.
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When my eldest were at school parents got a letter saying they were going to have a talk on sex education and you had the choice ( as parents should have ) to allow them to go to the lesson or not
It's not sex education, they aren't teaching the kids the ins and outs of scissoring and anal. They are literally just saying 'some kids have same sex parents and that's perfectly normal, some boys like other boys and some girls like other girls etc.

All it is is basically teaching children that non-hetero relationships are normal, it's normalising the idea of them so that the next generation are less likely to attack people on a bus or murder someone because they are gay.
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Theres no need to do these childish protests, if you don't want your child to go into the lesson, tell the head teacher or keep them off school that day
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