[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Man or woman,makes no difference we are all equal now are we not ? or is that just when it suits.

agree don't see what gender has to do with anything at all here

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by King Gizzard

He did it straight away which tells you all you need to know about what he thinks about women, tbh. I’m gonna guess he wouldn’t dare stand up to a bloke like that

Yes he did it straight away...in the spur of the moment I think he said.....leaving him no time to weigh up the situation...all he saw was a possible danger and he acted on instinct...if only the security guArds and police had done the same a few years back when isis ran along the beach shooting everyone. ...they were the ones cowering away....the country needs more people like this bloke.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

agree don't see what gender has to do with anything at all here

Plenty. Like others said he went for her bc he realized he could play a hero tackling a weaker woman. Disgusting

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

agree don't see what gender has to do with anything at all here

Equal does not mean the same tbh. And surely noone would deny the strength differences between males and females.

Sex (not gender, sorry, bug bear of mine ) does tend to matter, when its violence against women, oddly enough. Especially when..its highly unlikely the man would have reacted the same way had a bloke walked towards him.

[Twosugars]

Oop didn't know he used to bang Liz "we import too much cheese" Truss. The affair ended his first marriage.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes he did it straight away...in the spur of the moment I think he said.....leaving him no time to weigh up the situation...all he saw was a possible danger and he acted on instinct...if only the security guArds and police had done the same a few years back when isis ran along the beach shooting everyone. ...they were the ones cowering away....the country needs more people like this bloke.

If he saw a possible danger, why did he look angry? That was pure rage, from the start. Not being shocked, or scared..or even unsure. Rage. Thats why the 'he was worried she might attack him' just does not work.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If he saw a possible danger, why did he look angry? That was pure rage, from the start. Not being shocked, or scared..or even unsure. Rage. Thats why the 'he was worried she might attack him' just does not work.

Yeah just rewatched it, she wasn't going near the people sitting down and he grabbed her as she was walking passed him, he didn't look afraid

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Oop didn't know he used to bang Liz "we import too much cheese" Truss. The affair ended his first marriage.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...90%&height=90%

correct that is stated in this article, and it's also on his Wikipedia profile

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If he saw a possible danger, why did he look angry? That was pure rage, from the start. Not being shocked, or scared..or even unsure. Rage. Thats why the 'he was worried she might attack him' just does not work.

it was lost the plot anger that was on his face which just isn't acceptable given the events that happened. People are allowed to peaceful protest

[Matthew.]

[Josy]

He was completely out of order and she shouldn't have been there that however does not excuse his actions in any way at all

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Love that gif

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes he did it straight away...in the spur of the moment I think he said.....leaving him no time to weigh up the situation...all he saw was a possible danger and he acted on instinct...if only the security guArds and police had done the same a few years back when isis ran along the beach shooting everyone. ...they were the ones cowering away....the country needs more people like this bloke.

He grabbed a woman walking past him for ****s sake, she posed no immediate threat, showed no signs of carrying a weapon. Can't believe people are making excuses for this thug

[bitontheslide]

there were security scanners at the entrance too, everyone that entered was checked

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there were security scanners at the entrance too, everyone that entered was checked

Well there goes the ‘she could have had a weapon?!’ Line of defence, he would have been fully aware that she didn’t have a weapon, therefore he knew she posed no actual threat, it was assault, end of

[parmnion]

I doubt the son of an army major would cower away if it was a bloke.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I doubt the son of an army major would cower away if it was a bloke.

It's not as if he himself was an ex soldier is it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Equal does not mean the same tbh. And surely noone would deny the strength differences between males and females.

Sex (not gender, sorry, bug bear of mine ) does tend to matter, when its violence against women, oddly enough. Especially when..its highly unlikely the man would have reacted the same way had a bloke walked towards him.

No but if he had manhandled a man in the same way there should be the same outcry

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Plenty. Like others said he went for her bc he realized he could play a hero tackling a weaker woman. Disgusting

That is peoples opinion, we don't know that for a fact at all, just because 'others have said it doesn't male it true', I don't agree with how he handled it at all, though having listened to the other side of the argument there is a heighted tension because of Jo Cox

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No but if he had manhandled a man in the same way there should be the same outcry

If he had randomly attacked a man the same way I am sure there would be outcry, maybe not quite as much as basically..men are more able to stand up to male violence physically, than women are. But I agree there should be outcry regardless of sex, but him doing it to a woman does come across a little worse. I highly doubt he would have actually done it to a man, and thats part of the problem really, along with the visciousness of the attack and the rage on his face. It cannot be explained away as 'he was scared' as its blatantly obvious he was not.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If he had randomly attacked a man the same way I am sure there would be outcry, maybe not quite as much as basically..men are more able to stand up to male violence physically, than women are. But I agree there should be outcry regardless of sex, but him doing it to a woman does come across a little worse. I highly doubt he would have actually done it to a man, and thats part of the problem really, along with the visciousness of the attack and the rage on his face. It cannot be explained away as 'he was scared' as its blatantly obvious he was not.

it depends on the stature of the man involved I suppose, if he were weedy and such

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

it depends on the stature of the man involved I suppose, if he were weedy and such

true but I bet there would be outcry too if he went for a frail looking man

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

it depends on the stature of the man involved I suppose, if he were weedy and such

Well yes, am speaking in averages of course. Studies have shown the average bloke has 60% more strength than the average woman. Of course some women would be able to handle a bloke attacking them and maybe overpower them, but its unlikely on a..average level. Most blokes, even weedy ones tbh, can overpower most women easily. I was ****ing terrified when I found this out properly as basically..I am quite a big woman and fairly strong too, and we have this friend who is a tiny skinny bloke, and he basically slammed me against a wall and held me there, I could not move at all. He did it to prove to me that..well most blokes, even small ones are stronger than most women, as I had laughed at him and told him I could take him easily. He was clearly right though.

I actually asked Gavin to use his full strength on me a while after that just to see, and that terrified me even more tbh

For ****s sake, even my 16 year old stepson is now stronger than me, and I would say that I am probably stronger than the average woman.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

true but I bet there would be outcry too if he went for a frail looking man

Yup.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

He grabbed a woman walking past him for ****s sake, she posed no immediate threat, showed no signs of carrying a weapon. Can't believe people are making excuses for this thug

He thought she would be a threat.

Also the SkyNewsHD Business Reporter
was there last night
He said someone let them in
so it was a inside job.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

He thought she would be a threat.

Which is obviously just an excuse, to anyone who has watched the video.