[Jigs]

LGBT+ staff face pay discrimination in the UK, according to a new survey.

LinkedIn and UK Black Pride found that LGBT+ workers in the UK earn on average £6,703 less than straight colleagues.

The shortfall is equivalent to a pay gap of 16% — almost double the UK pay gap between men and women of 9.6%.

“Although we have seen progress in the workplace for LGBT+ people, it is clear that there are still substantial issues which can make it difficult for individuals to thrive professionally as their authentic selves,” Suki Sandhu OBE, CEO and founder of includisivity campaign group INvolve, said in a statement.

“LGBT+ people are at all levels of a business, whether they’re out or not, so it’s crucial to have inclusive environments.”

The research found the pay gap was slightly less for transgender staff but still stood at 14%, or £5,340 on average.

The data was based on a YouGov survey of 4,000 people who identified as being straight, gay, bisexual or other.

The research, released to coincide with Pride month, found that 65% of people believe their workplace is doing enough to support LGBT+ colleagues. However, 44% of transgender staff said that their employers should be doing more to promote inclusive workplaces.

“While a significant number of UK workers feel that their employer is supportive and inclusive of LGBT+ colleagues, our research shows there is still a long way to go,” Joshua Graff, UK Country Manager at LinkedIn, said in a statement.

“It is important that businesses build on the steps that many have already taken to create more inclusive environments – places where people can bring their true, authentic selves to work.”

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/pr...m-9tqwhG56ZynF

[Livia]

The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.

'All lives matter!'

[Wizard.]

How can two people doing the same job be paid differently?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Wizard.

How can two people doing the same job be paid differently?

I'm not sure I get this either...say if I'm sitting on an assembly line and a gay man is sitting next to me...is this saying I get paid more than him because I'm straight?

[Oliver_W]

Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The UK gender pay gap is about 18%, women have been fighting for decades for this to be addressed. It's about time ALL pay inequality was addressed.

And the pay gap for women has been, rightfully, reported on and discussed on the public platform for a while. No real need to jump in with some 'whataboutery' as though the gays are infringing on women's problems.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.

Different career choices?

How is a man and a woman... doing the same job... but being paid differently... about DIFFERENT career choices?

[Liam-]

Its alright, we’ve already got everything we need apparently, who needs equal treatment when we don’t get chucked in prison for liking a bit of the cock anymore?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Different career choices?

How is a man and a woman... doing the same job... but being paid differently... about DIFFERENT career choices?

That doesn't happen.

The "pay gap" talks about average pay overall, it doesn't refer to differences in pay for the same job at the same company.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That doesn't happen.

Omg, WORLD! OH WORLD! Oliver said it doesn't happen! Guys! PHEW!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Omg, WORLD! OH WORLD! Oliver said it doesn't happen! Guys! PHEW!

And then I went on to explain why people who believe in the pay gap are mistaken

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And then I went on to explain why people who believe in the pay gap are mistaken

All those people who experience it being "mistaken" and you being right. Thank GOD we have you!

[Ant.]

I can't believe there's not a single woman in this world that is paid differently to a man with the same experience doing the same job

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

All those people who experience it being "mistaken" and you being right. Thank GOD we have you!

What people of both genders have experienced is getting paid less than people of both genders who work in better paid jobs and/or work more hours.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What people of both genders have experienced is getting paid less than people of both genders who work in better paid jobs and/or work more hours.

Erm, no, Oliver. That's not it at all.

The gender pay gap is defined as unequal pay for work of equal value which is performed with the same skills and qualifications.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And the pay gap for women has been, rightfully, reported on and discussed on the public platform for a while. No real need to jump in with some 'whataboutery' as though the gays are infringing on women's problems.

That's what you took from my post? Whataboutery? Then I apologise. My point is that there is no excuse for anyone to be paid less than someone else for the same job, whoever they are, whoever they love, whatever colour they are and whether they're male or female.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The gender pay gap is defined as unequal pay for work of equal value which is performed with the same skills and qualifications.

I know. And that doesn't happen in the UK.

Here's some more information:
What is the gender pay gap?
The gender pay gap is the average difference between hourly wages for men and women.

Since changes to the Equality Act came into force in April 2017, companies with more than 250 employees have been legally required to report their gender pay gap figures by the end of the financial year.

Organisations must also reveal the proportion of men and women who receive financial bonuses.

The deadline for this is 30 March for public bodies and 4 April for private companies.

What is equal pay?
The gender pay gap isn’t the same as equal pay. Unequal pay is when women are paid less than men for doing the exact same work.

Equal pay has been a legal requirement since the Equal Pay Act was introduced in 1970. Despite this, pay discrimination remains rife, explains Sam Smethers, chief executive of the Fawcett Society.

What causes the gender pay gap?
A gender pay gap can be caused by a multitude of things, such as having fewer women in senior or more high-earning roles or more women working part-time.

“Everyone is legally entitled to equal pay for equal work, but there may be a range of factors behind pay gaps and it doesn’t necessarily mean that unlawful discrimination is happening,” explains a spokesperson for the EHRC.

“For example, if women are mainly at lower-paid levels in the organisation, the employer might want to develop a positive action plan to encourage and support women to apply for more senior roles,” they suggest.

“Or if women are more likely to work part-time because of childcare responsibilities, the employer might want to review their flexible working policies and ensure that part-time work and flexible work is available at all levels of the organisation.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8856121.html

[Marsh.]

Oliver you do realise you're posting the changes being made due to recent campaigning and public discussion of it?

That's not the same as "does not happen".

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Much like the gender "pay gap", it's due to different career choices.

i mean it literally isn't, the studies account for people in the same job and same position but believe what you want to believe ig!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Elliot

i mean it literally isn't, the studies account for people in the same job and same position but believe what you want to believe ig!

Different pay grades in the same job. That's a pretty widespread way of employers manipulating people's pay, there are usually pretty hazy criteria as to what grade you're on. Also people like women, gay people, trans people, black people are also often overlooked when it comes to promotion. It's pretty disgusting in 2019.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Its alright, we’ve already got everything we need apparently, who needs equal treatment when we don’t get chucked in prison for liking a bit of the cock anymore?

I know
We should be grateful and shut up, not go lgbt this lgbt that

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Different pay grades in the same job. That's a pretty widespread way of employers manipulating people's pay, there are usually pretty hazy criteria as to what grade you're on. Also people like women, gay people, trans people, black people are also often overlooked when it comes to promotion. It's pretty disgusting in 2019.

Itd be enlightening to know how employers justify that to themselves

[UserSince2005]

To be honest if it wasn't for me earning so much I reckon it would be more that 20%.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Itd be enlightening to know how employers justify that to themselves

It would. I do believe things are changing, but it's soooo glacially slow.