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Old 06-07-2019, 03:40 PM #26
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I don’t think you said anything wrong Kazanne. You were actually saying most doctors are clearly capable regardless of their race and got message has been twisted. I also am rubbish at understanding any accent to be honest
Exactly Douglas,some people like to find drama when there really isn't any ,lol.
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Exactly Douglas,some people like to find drama when there really isn't any ,lol.
No one was looking for drama I assure you. I personally find it hard to understand some accents so you can’t be faulted for that. I too am deaf in one ear and have difficulty understanding some accents like the Scottish and Welsh.

I love Scotland and Wales so don’t take it the wrong way
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He wasn't declined service... he rejected the service on offer because of his own racist belief system. That's a choice. He chose not to be treated.
"They will still receive emergency treatment at A&E if needed, but for anything else they will have to go elsewhere."

So if whatever his ailment was progresses, he won't be able to receive treatment in his local hospital.
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"They will still receive emergency treatment at A&E if needed, but for anything else they will have to go elsewhere."

So if whatever his ailment was progresses, he won't be able to receive treatment in his local hospital.
Again, if he was that desperate then he should have stuck with the doctor that came to see him. If it progresses then that’s his own fault, not the doctors

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if you go to a doctors surgery and cause trouble you will immediately be removed from the practice list. This is standard procedure. It is up to the individual to take responsibility for their own actions.
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"They will still receive emergency treatment at A&E if needed, but for anything else they will have to go elsewhere."

So if whatever his ailment was progresses, he won't be able to receive treatment in his local hospital.
I'm sure they looked at all options available
Medical professionals have the ethical code to follow
They'd not deny treatment if there was no alternative eg as they specified in emergency

At the end of the day they're a human being. Like refugees and illegals are, don't you think Oliver? You'd try to help, not let them drown for example...wouldn't you Oliver?

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"They will still receive emergency treatment at A&E if needed, but for anything else they will have to go elsewhere."

So if whatever his ailment was progresses, he won't be able to receive treatment in his local hospital.
Good

Who gives a ****? He’d receive all the treatment he likes if he wasn’t a racist prick.
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As most people have said, were it an actual medical emergency, he would have been happy to be treated by anyone, regardless.of race, skin colour etc. Looks like someone who wanted to kick off more than get treated.

My GP is a white Russian, heavily accented, she's like a Bond villian. I took my son recently for the first time in years...she looked at him, gestured him over and said "come". She then looked at the reason I had took him, wrote a prescription and I still had no idea what was wrong with him till.I left and googled what the medication was for
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No one was looking for drama I assure you. I personally find it hard to understand some accents so you can’t be faulted for that. I too am deaf in one ear and have difficulty understanding some accents like the Scottish and Welsh.

I love Scotland and Wales so don’t take it the wrong way
Nobody will take it the wrong way, we all struggle with some regional accents and no one bats an eyelid except when the person is black, then we are all racists for struggling
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No one was looking for drama I assure you. I personally find it hard to understand some accents so you can’t be faulted for that. I too am deaf in one ear and have difficulty understanding some accents like the Scottish and Welsh.

I love Scotland and Wales so don’t take it the wrong way
I get that but some are just so eager to pull someone up for anything , its hard to know what to say or call anyone now as I recently quite innocently called someone 'coloured' and got an infraction for it , so just how are we supposed to describe people I will probably now get another infraction because I used that naughty word
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Nobody will take it the wrong way, we all struggle with some regional accents and no one bats an eyelid except when the person is black, then we are all racists for struggling
Skin colour doesn’t define how well you speak English though. You can be brown, black, orange, pink, pistachio and speak fluent English.
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I get that but some are just so eager to pull someone up for anything , its hard to know what to say or call anyone now as I recently quite innocently called someone 'coloured' and got an infraction for it , so just how are we supposed to describe people I will probably now get another infraction because I used that naughty word
Just don’t use it then if you know it’s gonna offend people, Kazanne.
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Skin colour doesn’t define how well you speak English though. You can be brown, black, orange, pink, pistachio and speak fluent English.
I was speaking about black people who are not English natives? nobody can say a word if they can't understand them? yet we can quite openly and rightly so say we cant understand say a Scottish person whose first language is English
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But I was talking about native English speakers who have strong accents and are sometimes difficult to understand.

It’s really not that hard to understand but I guess some people like to exaggerate

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But I was talking about native English speakers who have strong accents and are sometimes difficult to understand.

It’s really not that hard to understand but I guess some people like to exaggerate
I know you were, no idea what point you are making at all now tbh, and I will leave it there as I really cant be arsed

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Afaik all foreign doctors have their qualifications verified and their English tested before they're allowed to practice in this country.
Idg where all these negative experiences come from. I've never come across a foreign health professional with problematic English
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Afaik all foreign doctors have their qualifications verified and their English tested before they're allowed to practice in this country.
Idg where all these negative experiences come from. I've never come across a foreign health professional with problematic English
Well lucky,you,Ive often come away from hospital without a clue what has been related to me. it doesn't bother me I just find it a bit embarrassing having to keep saying pardon so most times I just give up as I would never ask to see someone else.
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Afaik all foreign doctors have their qualifications verified and their English tested before they're allowed to practice in this country.
Idg where all these negative experiences come from. I've never come across a foreign health professional with problematic English
I rarely see.my GP but she is heavily accented, I was trying to make the point that she is white and still difficult to understand but I trust her judgement and have no issues with the care she gives.
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I know you were, no idea what point you are making at all now tbh, and I will leave it there as I really cant be arsed
I don’t know what point you were trying to make either but we shall drop it
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I get that but some are just so eager to pull someone up for anything , its hard to know what to say or call anyone now as I recently quite innocently called someone 'coloured' and got an infraction for it , so just how are we supposed to describe people I will probably now get another infraction because I used that naughty word
Its pretty well understood now that that's not a term that's appropriate and it is offensive to many people, its not hard not to use it
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Like refugees and illegals are, don't you think Oliver? You'd try to help, not let them drown for example...wouldn't you Oliver?
And then I'd drop them off where they came from, yes.
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Its pretty well understood now that that's not a term that's appropriate and it is offensive to many people, its not hard not to use it
And I haven't as such, I was just explaining why I described some people as foreigners as its hard to know what to call them,without someone getting irate,well that worked well didn't it ?
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Well lucky,you,Ive often come away from hospital without a clue what has been related to me. it doesn't bother me I just find it a bit embarrassing having to keep saying pardon so most times I just give up as I would never ask to see someone else.
You have the right to understand so I'd ask until I understand.
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I rarely see.my GP but she is heavily accented, I was trying to make the point that she is white and still difficult to understand but I trust her judgement and have no issues with the care she gives.
Wasn't having a go, sorry if it came across that way
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