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16-07-2019, 02:00 PM | #1 | |||
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16-07-2019, 02:05 PM | #2 | |||
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They should all face murder charges tbh,
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16-07-2019, 02:07 PM | #3 | |||
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Wow.... kind of grim. But I understand that people get angry when kids are involved... who knew why he drove off with them, and what he intended for them. If he was a paedophile, I have no problem with his being killed. Otherwise.... there should be some sentences handed out.
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16-07-2019, 02:08 PM | #4 | ||
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Mob justice is never the answer, what would have been a positive story of people working together to prevent a kidnapping has become one of murder and I can only hope that both the people involved face justice in order to dissuade others from taking such actions and that the children haven't been too traumatised by potentially seeing someone murdered in front of them.
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16-07-2019, 02:44 PM | #5 | |||
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They should all face manslaughter charges tbh. I wouldn't class it as murder since I doubt any of them set out to kill him, but this is still horrific.
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16-07-2019, 02:58 PM | #6 | |||
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I feel sorry for the children. This must have been horrible for them.
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16-07-2019, 03:17 PM | #7 | |||
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16-07-2019, 03:52 PM | #8 | |||
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it should have been a citizens arrest until the police arrived and could take over. I suspect there is more to this than is being reported.
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16-07-2019, 03:58 PM | #9 | ||
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16-07-2019, 04:19 PM | #10 | |||
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Yes was reported on CNN HD
last week Shocking. |
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16-07-2019, 04:47 PM | #11 | |||
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I never mentioned murder. Last edited by Livia; 16-07-2019 at 04:48 PM. |
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16-07-2019, 04:56 PM | #12 | ||
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16-07-2019, 05:11 PM | #13 | |||
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I am not going to lose sleep over a dead paedo, if you do, that's your call, I certainly won't be judging YOU. I'm a ***ing bigot and a racist, and a proper all round monster. I'm a terrible person Marshy. Have you not been reading the threads today? |
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16-07-2019, 05:16 PM | #14 | ||
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16-07-2019, 05:18 PM | #15 | ||
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He could have been a child molester targetting those kids, yes, but also he could have been a schizophrenic having an episode. Of course either way it's a good thing that he was stopped, but a crowd of people could easily have restrained him rather than beating the hell out of him, in order for the authorities to sort out the details properly. Even if it DOES turn out that he was a child molester or serial killer. That would purely be "luck" for the people eho killed him. They had no idea who he was. |
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16-07-2019, 05:18 PM | #16 | |||
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You're the person crusading that murder is murder and let the poor paedos live. I am happy for them to die. If you want another half a dozen posts saying the same things in different ways, you're unlucky. |
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16-07-2019, 05:25 PM | #17 | ||
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We don't even know if this story was about a pedo. I'm talking about the lack of consistency in saying it's ok for one human to kill another human "I have no problem with his being killed" and then deciding it's wrong "Otherwise.... there should be some sentences handed out". Do you not personally see how that kind of thinking in regard to murder/manslaughter has no place in civilised society and simply can't work? "The victim was a bad person, so it's fine" just has so many problems with it. P.S. I don't see how "love" is anymore rude or patronising than "Marshy" but whatever. |
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16-07-2019, 07:24 PM | #18 | |||
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My nephew got car jacked when he was 2 in edinburgh..
His dad popped into his pub for the afternoons takings while he was asleep at 2 in his seat in the back..came back out 10 mins later to the car gone... The thief stopped half a mile down the road and phoned the police waiting behind a bush until they arrived. Different folks I suppose. Last edited by parmnion; 16-07-2019 at 07:25 PM. |
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16-07-2019, 07:27 PM | #19 | |||
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I don't have any issue with this...sorry but life is tough.
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16-07-2019, 11:49 PM | #20 | ||
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You are basically picking and choosing when murder is okay and when people call bull**** for what it is, you are making out that they are sympathetic to peadophiles. It's a disgusting tactic and one you use often, very recently you made out that pretty much anyone that supports labour is an anti-semite and now you're suggesting people who don't agree with your views are sympathetic to peadophiles. It's poor form and does nothing to add to the discussion but it certainly does it's best to force out opinions you dislike. A human life is a human life and should be treated equally in the eyes of the law, anyone with experience of law should know that. When you start picking and choosing if murder applies depending on the victim and not the circumstances then law falls apart. No one truly knows who this man is and it really doesn't matter because it's the circumstances of his death that matter here. Whether it's murder or manslaughter depends on nothing more than the circumstances of the crime. |
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17-07-2019, 12:57 AM | #21 | ||
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17-07-2019, 05:41 AM | #22 | ||
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Things like this happen from time to time, groups of people are stoning women to death in other countries for having affairs while married .
We live under the laws of the land but these laws don’t always give justice to those who deserve it. |
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17-07-2019, 01:00 PM | #23 | ||
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Or of course he MIGHT have been abducting them. But we'll never know, now. And that's why due process exists and we should never willingly accept instances of vigilante justice. It's a mystery. Maybe he was some monster who was planning unspeakable things... maybe he was just some random petty car thief... and anyone who would suggest that a car thief being kicked to death in the street is anything resembling "justice" doesn't belong in any civilised society tbqfh. |
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