[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

[Cherie]

are we ready to stop buying fast fashion,and buying stuff we don't need yet?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

So people shouldn’t do their little bit to help, because other countries are worse polluters? Let’s just chuck oil in the sea and be done with it then

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Beef farmers seem to be a soft target

I saw a picture of FB of all the airplanes over Europe at any given time, but its the cows that are killing us

Tbf, if people are inclined to want to help make a difference, they can only do so in ways they are able to. Unless a university uses planes, nothing they do to change as an organisation will have an effect on air traffic.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

I think you've missed the point.

A "little bit" of help is surely better than nothing at all.

That "little bit" can potentially build and grow and make a change. The only thing you get from doing nothing... is nothing.

[parmnion]

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, if people are inclined to want to help make a difference, they can only do so in ways they are able to. Unless a university uses planes, nothing they do to change as an organisation will have an effect on air traffic.

That still doesn't change the fact that beef farmers are a soft target, I know a bit about this as my brother is one and there are a lot of things going on that are actually bringing the industry to its knees, the way things are going it wont matter if there isn't a planet because food will be in short supply as farmers go out of business

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That still doesn't change the fact that beef farmers are a soft target, I know a bit about this as my brother is one and there are a lot of things going on that are actually bringing the industry to its knees, the way things are going it wont matter if there isn't a planet because food will be in short supply as farmers go out of business

Well people aren't stopping eating. They stop eating one thing and start eating something else.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well people aren't stopping eating. They stop eating one thing and start eating something else.

not every farm can suddenly switch what it produces, and it what they do produce is worthless where is the money to switch coming from?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

not every farm can suddenly switch what it produces, and it what they have is suddenly worthless where is the money to switch coming from?

I never said they get the alternatives from the same farmers. They probably would go out of business.

I was talking about your shortage of food claim.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said they get the alternatives from the same farmers. They probably would go out of business.

I was talking about your shortage of food claim.

no farmers, no food, simple

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

.

Some of the attitudes in this thread are the very things that’ll kill the planet

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

no farmers, no food, simple

Not all farmers are beef farmers.

The industry will change, as the world does and has to in order to survive.

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah this is silly from the University.

Sure maybe cut down how much Beef you have in stock, but an outright ban is just stupid and they're clearly only thinking of looking good to Vegans and people who think that it'll help the environment and aren't looking at it from the other perspective which like what Bitontheslide has already said on here, banning Beef isn't gonna solve environmental issues when it isn't even the biggest problem to begin with.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

I'm not an expert on the subject, but do you really think that people stop eating Beef is really gonna make that much of a difference to the planet when peoples lifestyles are killing the planet in so many different and deadly ways?

I'm not meaning to be confrontational btw if it's coming across that way, it's just a genuine question.

[Denver]

Red meat is vile and not good for you

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

Read up about it.

Florida (and mar-a-lago) will all disappear, several Pacific islands, Bangladesh, the Netherlands and more. Most cost lines will change, several large cities will disappear like Shanghai etc, UK will lose some of its eastern coast areas from encroaching sea.
Theres much more but can't remember

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not an expert on the subject, but do you really think that people stop eating Beef is really gonna make that much of a difference to the planet when peoples lifestyles are killing the planet in so many different and deadly ways?

I'm not meaning to be confrontational btw if it's coming across that way, it's just a genuine question.

Cows farting vast quantities of methane, a greenhouse gas, is the issue

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Read up about it.

Florida (and mar-a-lago) will all disappear, several Pacific islands, Bangladesh, the Netherlands and more. Most cost lines will change, several large cities will disappear like Shanghai etc, UK will lose some of its eastern coast areas from encroaching sea.
Theres much more but can't remember

oh well i had a fun life anyway but i wanted to live longer

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

oh well i had a fun life anyway but i wanted to live longer

Your country Nicky will have to redo the flood defences otherwise it will be bad. I'm sure they are on it. It's the poor countries that will suffer the most as always
And it will be gradual so theres time

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not all farmers are beef farmers.

The industry will change, as the world does and has to in order to survive.

I'm sure you saying that will be of great comfort to beef farmers

less farmer means less food produced so food prices will increase

OR

we will have to fly it in from far away places....oh wait!

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm sure you saying that will be of great comfort to beef farmers

less farmer means less food produced so food prices will increase

OR

we will have to fly it in from far away places....oh wait!

Changes like that will be gradual. There will be time to diversify

Unlike sheep farmers who export 40% to the EU

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Your country Nicky will have to redo the flood defences otherwise it will be bad. I'm sure they are on it. It's the poor countries that will suffer the most as always
And it will be gradual so theres time

we already had a horrible flooding, and since that disaster our flood defences have become a lot stronger

i'm having loads of respect for that one girl miss greta thunberg, our voice for climate change, and also that we should all work together to clean up the world and make the world still habitable for the generations to come