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16-08-2019, 01:14 PM | #1 | |||
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-deal-brexit https://www.dw.com/en/jeremy-corbyn-...xit/a-50033187 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9058886.html
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16-08-2019, 01:34 PM | #2 | ||
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As leader of the opposition, like him or hate him.
He is the one who if a government lost a no confidence motion, to be the one to try to form a government. He only intends to seek an extension from the EU for a general election to be held. To add holding another EU vote too. Lib Dem Jo Swinson could be the one who now ensures a no deal brexit. Because if it stays as it is, she can't have the Lib Dens supporting a no confidence motion, which has to be tabled by Corbyn. To then not have any extension with the EU. If the country want no deal, then in the general election they will return a majority Con government. If there's no extension with the EU, the Lib Dems will make no deal not possible but near certain by Swinson's current stance. Last edited by joeysteele; 16-08-2019 at 02:18 PM. |
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16-08-2019, 01:54 PM | #3 | ||
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He's in his rights to try and put together an alternative government
Parliamentary democracy in action Taking back control and all that Swinson needs to get her priorities right Last edited by Twosugars; 16-08-2019 at 01:55 PM. |
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16-08-2019, 02:01 PM | #4 | |||
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Absolutely right 2s, Aaron Bastani of Novara media posted on you tube of the lib dems 'support' for remain... when you peel away the words there's not been much action against the govts railroading towards a no deal brexit.
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16-08-2019, 02:25 PM | #5 | |||
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He was against the EU for most of his career , now suddenly he does a U Turn,is this guy for real ? he has seen an opportunity to get in number 10 and that's it , lol, he is so desperate to be PM .
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16-08-2019, 02:48 PM | #6 | |||
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He's not against the UK is he? that's who he's proposing doing the deal for...it's a strictly time limited offer to facilitate brexit, where's the harm? Nobody else has managed it, this would be with cross party support a very democratic decision :/
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16-08-2019, 03:40 PM | #7 | |||
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He's against no deal, as everyone should be. No deal would be disastrous for the UK
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16-08-2019, 03:49 PM | #8 | |||
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A man who doesn’t want the country to go to ****? This won’t go down well with brexiteers. Hope you all got your winter coats ready, the snowflakes are coming.
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16-08-2019, 04:16 PM | #9 | |||
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He does not have every Labour MP
backing him. LibDem leader will not let he become Temp PM. |
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16-08-2019, 04:19 PM | #10 | |||
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16-08-2019, 04:21 PM | #11 | |||
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no deal brexit is a disaster, i agree with Jeremy, the only ones who won't suffer with no deal brexit are the british elite the selfish british elite who only think about themselves, and not the middle class british people
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16-08-2019, 04:27 PM | #12 | ||
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16-08-2019, 04:29 PM | #13 | |||
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Even the small party Change UK
will not support Corbyn. Also DUP will not support Corbyn So many against is plan. |
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16-08-2019, 04:43 PM | #14 | ||
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Party politics before national interest
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16-08-2019, 04:44 PM | #15 | ||
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Spot on Nicky and Kizzy..
Next to no Labour voters wanted or want no deal. More Labour voters voted remain than leave. Parliament doesn't want a no deal. Hardly desperate to be PM. That's more a charge to be levelled at Johnson who has backstabbed the last 2 Prime Ministers to get there. Corbyn would be voting himself out of office almost as soon as he was PM. This lot won't listen that no deal isn't wanted. Every other party, bar the sectarian extreme DUP, want Corbyn to table the no confidence motion. No one else can. He'd then get an extension from the EU, then call for a general election. Which he could lose. His is a good plan, it could kill no deal once and for all. It just may pull the UK back from the brink of chaos, this extreme hard-line Cabinet are insisting on taking us to, no matter the consequences. He'd be PM a very short time. Desperate, his unfair critics are that more than he is. I don't care for him but this plan, is, one of the easiest and best ways to bring a halt to no deal before end of October. In fact, it's one if his better ideas. It's just sad the UK has a PM and Cabinet, hell bent on ignoring all the more moderate voices, inside and out of Parliament. Many of whom have both ways changed their stance on being in the EU. |
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16-08-2019, 04:51 PM | #16 | |||
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May repeated over and over before the last GE that no deal was better than a bad deal and she won the election. It's about a 50/50 split in the population. Parliament and business in the majority don't want a no deal.
The simplest solution and the one most likely to succeed is revoking article 50. It's much less messy than a no confidence vote. MP's don't want to admit it yet for obvious reasons, but that's what will be voted on eventually Last edited by bitontheslide; 16-08-2019 at 04:52 PM. |
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16-08-2019, 05:03 PM | #17 | |||
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16-08-2019, 10:58 PM | #18 | ||
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Theresa May did not win the last election.
She actually lost her overall majority and the mandate given in ,2015. She got the most votes and most seats but left unable to govern alone. No other party in ,2017 canvassed on a no deal brexit. None, not even the DUP. 57% of votes went to parties advocating a deal and not no deal at all. In any event, she intended to get a deal and she did. However all other Parties, a good number of her own party and the DUP voted against her. I agree with bitontheslide, revoking article ,50 is the best thing. The Cons will never vote for that and a number of Labour MPs and the DUP sadly won't either. Which is why Corbyn's plan is one of the better ones. However it is doomed due to the LibDems and the Independents. So what next. Ken Clarke leading a temporary coalition would infuriate the ERG group in the Cons. I doubt Harriett Harman could unite either. So it seems the Lib Dems while saying they would do anything it takes to stop no deal. Aren't prepared to do anything at all. They may be forced to look back at this period and see the bad choice they made here.. Last edited by joeysteele; 16-08-2019 at 11:00 PM. |
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16-08-2019, 11:25 PM | #19 | ||
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Hope they can compromise. Maybe pick someone relatively independent?
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17-08-2019, 09:53 AM | #20 | |||
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He wants exactly what the lib dems want, to me this is to personal they're not thinking whats best for the country at this moment.
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17-08-2019, 09:58 AM | #21 | |||
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like even though you want to leave the EU, you'd at least want to hold on to some of the trade deals you got with europe certain foods coming in, or wines or flowers seriously the ''brexit mess'' continues to give me a headache how complicated it has gotten
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17-08-2019, 10:03 AM | #22 | |||
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Sure and Germany a nation soon to go into a Recession will hate a "no deal" But at least we will be out of the EU> |
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17-08-2019, 10:43 AM | #23 | |||
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i don't believe that to be true, unless it comes from one of Germany's news sites, channels themselves
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17-08-2019, 12:33 PM | #24 | |||
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This Whole Corbyn idea
is Crazy - Its No way a Government of Unity. Even all the Remain Conservatives are against Corbyn he has No Unity. Last edited by arista; 17-08-2019 at 12:33 PM. |
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17-08-2019, 12:41 PM | #25 | |||
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all the "national unity" governments proposed so far are led by people who want to remain in the eu so it's hardly unity.
Why don't they just call it what it is .... an unconstitutional grab for power |
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